Interesting_Mood_124 t1_itwkep0 wrote
Reply to comment by wow-signal in Logical positivism does not dispense with metaphysics, as it aimed to. It merely proposes a different kind of metaphysics, in which natural sciences take the privileged position once occupied by rationalist metaphysics. by IAI_Admin
Really?
At my university we literally had a speaker who was an expert on the history of philosophy and he explained why logical positivism exists and is important
wow-signal t1_itwlutv wrote
it's historically significant in the way that alchemy is historically significant, and some influence does live on, especially among a certain generation of scientists who unwittingly absorbed the central ideas from faculty while they were in graduate school, but as john passmore wrote in 1967, "logical positivism is dead, or as dead as a philosophical movement ever becomes." by that he meant that the central tenets, most significantly the verification criterion of meaning, had been demonstrated to be false.
mirh t1_itx03zs wrote
It's not just that "somebody" demonstrated it false.
The very same authors and original proponents agreed that it was surpassed and wrong.
Interesting_Mood_124 t1_itwm5w1 wrote
Well actually no.
The guy who came to speak at my university seminary specifically explained that it’s not dead and ultimately SHOULD replace metaphysics.
wow-signal t1_itwnt01 wrote
it'd probably be worth learning about this yourself. here's a great place to start: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logical-empiricism/
Kyocus t1_itx8poc wrote
Thanks for the resource!
wow-signal t1_itxa0ms wrote
very welcome! SEP is an incredible resource
Interesting_Mood_124 t1_itxfrr1 wrote
Do you think I don’t know the SEP exists?
At the end of the day, I’m just citing the opinion of an expert in the history of philosophy
wow-signal t1_itxg787 wrote
there may be a few experts here too, you never know 🫢
Interesting_Mood_124 t1_itxgayp wrote
You’re just being immature
mirh t1_itwzqoi wrote
The guy is probably disingenuous AF like Adorno and friends.
WildIsland-S-E t1_itxo5g3 wrote
Sounds right.
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