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theartificialkid t1_ive2kb9 wrote

Reply to comment by RonDJockefeller in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3

> Harris's concept of a moral landscape relies on an axiomatic claim (as all sciences do) that the worst possible misery for everyone is bad

Ah see here’s your misconception. The actual moral truth is that the worst possible misery for everyone is good.

In answer to you saying “the counter claim is unfalsifiable”: both claims are unfalsifiable. There is no scientific truth about morality, only extrapolation from unfounded axioms.

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RonDJockefeller t1_ivenbda wrote

I'm laughing at the idea of you playing devil's advocate in a state of maximum suffering and still sticking to the line that's it's a good thing. Your argument has the same character of solipsism - you're going to have to make the right assumption about the existence of consciousness in other people to engage with reality in a meaningful way, but I can't disprove you of thinking you're the only locus of consciousness in the universe.

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theartificialkid t1_iveqw65 wrote

I’m laughing at the idea that you think your earth human bullshit has anything to do with absolute truth.

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