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AllanfromWales1 t1_ivg0jlb wrote

> We know they are models, we know they are only approximations, and we also know the approximations are good enough to get the results we want.

As someone who works in an engineering discipline I think you are naive to assume that all engineers know this. Many I have dealt with simply follow algorithms and give little or no thought to what underlies them. I'd also suggest that if we had, if it were possible to have, more complex models the world would not be running headlong towards catrastrophe as we speak.

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visarga t1_ivir19q wrote

No, models are tools, it's how you wield them. What I noticed is that models tend to attract activist types that have an agenda to push, so they try to control it. Not just in AI, also in Economics and other fields.

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AllanfromWales1 t1_iviwmbq wrote

Every scientific paradigm is a model. We do not have direct access to underlying reality, we only have maps put together based on the observations we can make.

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iiioiia t1_ivkge94 wrote

> No

It seems like the two of you mostly agree, no?

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