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HeavyLogix t1_iwbq56x wrote

Reply to comment by logicalmaniak in A cross between an Existentialist and an Old Testament prophet, Danish philosopher Soren Kierkegaard urged his "single individual" reader to follow the "highest passion" of faith rather than becoming one of the stereotyped pseudo-individuals of "The Crowd" by thelivingphilosophy

> I suffered huge anxiety, PTSD, depression, etc from a childhood of sustained abuse. I met God.

That explains quite a bit actually. You’re incapable of being objective due to this.

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logicalmaniak t1_iwbvps4 wrote

Well if you're only going to cherry-pick my quotes for self-confirmation, you can believe anything you want about me.

The next bit, I said

>Now it's all gone

That's been logged with my doctor. I had mental illness, now I have none. I'm happy, productive, clear-thinking, and have fun in life.

That's a real change.

How can a real change be caused by something that isn't real?

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HeavyLogix t1_iwbzqx8 wrote

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Please, for everyone's benefit, learn basic logic and skepticism. Basic. Even if you jump past causality, that in no way proves anything supernatural was involved. You can't just jump from "I found God belief and now feel better, therefore a God exists."

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logicalmaniak t1_iwc8xsv wrote

>"I found God belief and now feel better, therefore a God exists."

That's not my position exactly. God happened to me, so I believe in God as much as anything else in my reality.

If you say "I found a banana, and it cured my hunger" can you jump from that to say that bananas exist and objective reality is definitely real and not just an experience you're having? You can describe your experience with labels like "banana" and "hunger" but there's no way to prove to yourself that bananas and hunger are actually real and not part of the dream you're currently having.

I describe my experience with labels like "God" and "consciousness" but it is just the labels on the experience. I experience tables and chairs, I call them tables and chairs. I experience God, I call it God.

> Please, for everyone's benefit, learn basic logic and skepticism

Sure. Prove that your belief in objective reality is justified logically and rationally. Prove it's real, and not just a materialist dogma you're applying to your experience of reality. Prove that things can even be provable, and it isn't a circular argument that relies on reality being provably real when it isn't.

I'll be sitting here reading Sextus Empiricus until you do...

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