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Beautiful_Look_8441 t1_iwh11qm wrote

Reply to comment by wlliam7378xy in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | November 14, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt

Do you seriously think anyone cares what trauma they go through?

I think some people do I certainly don’t care , why should anyone care? Do people honestly care about famines , wars , homelessness etc , etc around the world ? Is it just something we say to make us feel somehow more virtuous than others?

What does it mean to “care “ in such a situation how would it look to actually “care “?

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wlliam7378xy t1_iwhm3jl wrote

I think that a lot of people do honestly care about all the issues you listed.

As for what it actually looks like, well, that depends. In the best case, care toward something entails action. In the case of those issues, various actions which materially affect those issues on varying scales, from signing petitions or giving to charity to taking in refugees or other direct action.

Yes people lie about caring for various reasons. But I think a feeling of genuine care toward something compells people into action to some degree. Most people may fall short of self-directed effort to seek and find effective action. However possesing a passive feeling of care may make someone more likely to take up the oppertunity when it arises, they may throw change in the charity box when they see one, they may sign up to a protest when asked, etc.

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Beautiful_Look_8441 t1_iwkdb86 wrote

I think that a lot of people do honestly care about all the issues you listed.

Yet famine is still with , homelessness etc ,etc and I think it always will be

As for what it actually looks like, well, that depends. In the best case, care toward something entails action. In the case of those issues, various actions which materially affect those issues on varying scales, from signing petitions or giving to charity to taking in refugees or other direct action.

Yes , but it does seems that only certain levels of care really make impact of any kind

Yes people lie about caring for various reasons. But I think a feeling of genuine care toward something compells people into action to some degree. Most people may fall short of self-directed effort to seek and find effective action.

I think most people have enough on their plates with taking care of family and those closet to them. I have to admit when I give to anyone it’s mostly a homeless guy on the street , most charities I’ve seen in operation over here are smoothly run businesses where only a fraction of the money goes to the actual charity .

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However possesing a passive feeling of care may make someone more likely to take up the oppertunity when it arises, they may throw change in the charity box when they see one, they may sign up to a protest when asked, etc

I guess to me when I say I care it results in actual caring from my perspective that would mean a committed hands on effort , but there are degrees of care it seems and we each have our own ideas of what that means and it’s dependent on who or what we are caring for

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wlliam7378xy t1_iwlv3t9 wrote

I think the existence of famine, homelessness, etc are for most part political problems. The point being that solutions will require massive restructuring on a societal level. I think at the end of the day what matters when it comes to change in the world is action. 'Care' is often a precursor to said action, but not always, so I suppose it's only really relevant in a limited capacity. The only reason I mentioned it in first place is to demonstrate why there is little support available for certain workers despite the harsh and detrimental conditions.

I don't actually like charities or NGO's either. I'd also rather give my money to a homeless person on the street any day over those organisations for the very reasons you lay out.

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