iiioiia t1_iwuupck wrote
Reply to comment by eliyah23rd in Utilitarianism is the only option — but you have to take conscious experience seriously first by Squark09
> I'm not trying to get $$$
Why not? What kind of an implementation are you aiming at that wouldn't benefit from $$$?
> I believe in collaboration instead.
They are not mutually exclusive....like not at all. In fact, the opposite is more often true (consider the website we are having this conversation on right now, which runs on money).
> Look at the open source movement. They produce far superior code to that of all the big corporations with budgets in the billions. Yes, some corporations hire teams of independent minded open source creators and exploit them IMO because they control the real gold: eyeballs and data.
True....but if one wants to reach a goal, which is (probabilistically) faster: hoping for talent, or buying talent?
> I want to work without being tied to $$. I want to find the first collaborators and roll on from there.
Money tends to tie/corrupt people, but it is not a necessity.
> :heart: > $
Exactly. But that does not render the value/power of money to be zero. Both variables could be extremely large numbers, with heart being a much bigger large number.
As a though experiment, imagine two scenarios:
a) You and me (as is) vs the world ("the powers that be")
b) You and me (with unrestricted access to $45B in capital) vs the world ("the powers that be")
If it was me, I'd choose option (b).
eliyah23rd t1_ix45dij wrote
I am not against other people raising money for a cause. I am not interested in raising money. I don't want to be controlled by the wishes of those who give the money nor am I interested in buying talent and telling other people what I want them to create.
I just want to inspire, be corrected by and collaborate with other people who are trying to achieve the same goal. If we have differing goals but can find some goals in common, then that is fantastic too. If one or more of the team wants to raise money to further the ideas we've worked on, that would be great. It is just not the role I want.
That may all change. For now, I just want to create a forum where people who care can discuss the issues. I've got some ideas and these ideas need criticism. I want to hear the ideas other people have. Once there's some momentum, let's see where we all want to go from there.
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