Submitted by thelivingphilosophy t3_z7uo0z in philosophy
Why do you think that they will naturally end up in completely different places? Would you care to explain?
everyone’s moral compass is tuned to them, when they release themselves from societal values; not everyone’s going to head in the same direction
What if they did end up in the same direction? "Society" is a phantom. Necessity however remains true for each individual as well as families, communities, entire cultures and species. Perhaps a release from the phantom and subsequent acknowledgement of an objective standard can guide people toward the same place-- morally speaking?
I love how they're same same but different. I bet if they grew up with calisthenics their health may have been different. Working out does improve mental health.
It's so easy to forget technology has vastly changed how we're able to have access to information. I can't imagine how difficult and painstaking it is to translate someone's work into my own language without a computer doing it for me.
Emerson has always been close to my heart too. There truly is a connection between nature and trying to find some weird rationality of a higher being. Nietzsche said God was dead due to enlightenment. I don't think humans are enlighten enough and that's why some people have to "fill in gaps" to explain things they don't understand. It's not enough to have access to all of the world's information if you're not able to filter out and discern what's available.
I don't know how many people are on a path towards "enlightenment" when our attention spans are for sale and we can barely afford to live, our health care held over our heads with limited options for advancement in life based off where and to who we were fortunate enough to be born. I use the term "fortunate" loosely in my regard, nevertheless.
In a world where controversy brings in more revenue and it's just business savvy to treat people less than human it brings a corrosion on moral and mental health. It's systemic greed raised and nurtured from lesser civilizations, eras before our current time where "we've always done it this way" keeps the system rotten to its core.
This demented site upvotes and promotes the oppressors and silence and downvote what contrasts to your infantile worldviews.
I thought this was a post about a new, slightly darker talent show
Max Stirner: "hold my beer";)
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Was he the one that was super racist or the one who had his mom come to the pond to wash his clothes?
I always get Thoreau and Emerson confused.
Emerson changed his views early on and became an abolitionist prior to the break out of the civil war.
You're not afraid of making mistakes, but I wonder if you're interested in the slightest, in learning from them.
"You're afraid of making mistakes. Don't be. Mistakes can be profited by. Man, when I was young I shoved my ignorance in people's faces. They beat me with sticks. By the time I was forty my blunt instrument had been honed to a fine cutting point for me. If you hide your ignorance, no one will hit you and you'll never learn." -Ray Bradbury
Thoreau. He had dinner with his momma every week while living in solitude at Walden pond.
Nietzsche loved Emerson because Emerson lived the "overman" when Nietzsche felt forced to only tell the tale, (and tell it explosively well). (Not sure I've read any more "dynamite" philosophy than our man Freddy.)
Emerson "cut to the quick of it" and revealed all for those with eyes to see it. For all the teenagers championing Thoreau's Walden of 222 days, most never discover he was squatting on Emerson's land. Emerson came full circle where HDT was content just to see the other side from the Gap.
Nietzsche admired Emerson because the heights these two were able to rest in, most of our more celebrated minds haven't arrived to witness for moments.
Freud said if Nietzsche, “that he had a more penetrating knowledge of himself than any other man who ever lived or was likely to live.”
Now before you think what we're all thinking: "Sure, but what would Jung have said (to greater effect)?", just consider what his love, admiration and excitement of and for Emerson says. Dude's so good, he's quarantined from high school and undergrad teaching after only an essay called "Self Reliance". You have to be a grad student, genius, or just another incognito poet to even access the vast majority of what Emerson has given us.
Sure Nietzsche is famous for the smear campaign that has the popular consciousness believing he's some arch villain advocating Nihilism. Consider then the grandeur of Emerson that he's almost wholly covered up. None but these few phenoms and pyramid-scheme higher-Ed-heads get him and perhaps so much sweeter is this forbidden fruit for it.
So few finish Philosophy. Most give up on some branch or best-efforted concoction of system. Fewer still who've finished come back to tell us about it. Plato, Nietzsche (even for all his "faults"), Wittgenstein, Emerson. These are heights which have not only been achieved by the Humanity "us", but heights which have had their trails blazed by these paragons for the travel we too may tred.
Two authors who couldn't be so far apart yet also so similar in many ways.
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Didn't he also call America "a giant mistake?"
Wasn’t Emerson a pantheist or a deist, though?
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What is wrong with you?
I am dying to know what that comment said.
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livebonk t1_iy8oyl6 wrote
I think we see in Emerson the Nietzschean ideal of rejecting the institutions and dogma of your youth to consciously and carefully choose your own value system, and embracing something to give meaning. Nietzsche found meaning in art, but art is a dialogue with other ideas and does not preclude philosophies or religions or German identity that Nietzsche abhorred. When you tell people to consider and reconstruct all value and meaning then of course they will end up in completely different places. Some will embrace a different kind of religion or nature worship or whatever, some will create a system of post-rationalism that allows for rationally choosing the morality of the masses, some will be racists or embrace national identity to imbue their life and actions with meaning, even if they know it's something they chose and not fundamentally true. And all of those choices I think Nietzsche would argue against.