beingforelorn t1_iyhqd7w wrote
The only holiday celebrated for 1/6th of the YEAR...
I don't think profound is the right word to describe "the Christmas feeling," maybe oppressive, zealous, or wasteful may be better choices.
If you think of it in a biological sense, it is a set of traditions that has been artificially selected for for the past couple thousand years, intertwined with various cultures and traditions to be this way, its sad that we are captivated by such a machination.
Butterfly_853 t1_iyhv2j9 wrote
Christmas is about nostalgia and hope , not oppression or wastefulness . We use this period every year to celebrate the good experiences we’ve had with family and friends during what would ordinarily be a difficult time of year . When you think of Christmas you think of the magical feeling you had around it as a child , and that’s why it’s so nice as an adult to reminisce on that magic again . This is my take on Christmas anyway , that it’s a brilliant excuse to spend time with family and friends that we may not have seen much throughout the hustle and bustle of the year , and to make memories that aren’t clouded over .
beingforelorn t1_iyhw6qt wrote
The notion that the Christmas season as a whole is useful to offset the hardships that the year as a whole has held is likely close to the heart of Christmas, and the growth of the season to 2-3 months could be representative of the dismal and dreadful existences we have come to live in our day to day lives.
But why couple that with the religious theft and oppression that Christmas represents, why not dismiss Christmas and celebrate exactly what you said? That is the oppressive nature of Christmas, everyone is all too willing to ignore its ugliness and accept its boons.
Historically Christmas was made to pacify pagans through their indoctrination into Christianity, we have come to ignore the way Christmas has become what it is in a similar way to how white privilege is institutionalized in modern America. Ignorance is bliss I suppose, but such bliss is oppressive, zealous, and wasteful.
WhatsUpMyBrothers t1_iyhxo9v wrote
Christmas is awesome
beingforelorn t1_iyhy429 wrote
And in your eyes what makes Christmas awesome, engage in the philosophical inquiry of your feelings.
Do you feel its awesome because of your experiences or have you studied the history around Christmas and can include things that I may be ignorant of?
Simply saying its awesome doesn't provide anything for conversation, does it?
WhatsUpMyBrothers t1_iyioj82 wrote
History will show all that exists has a sorted past. You can be a complete Nihilist if you'd like and find no or negative meaning in everything. It's just a shit way to exist.
I find it enjoyable, beautiful, and love spending time with family in the environment Christmas creates.
Butterfly_853 t1_iym6n9k wrote
Yeah historically that is what Christmas meant , now Christmas is barely a religious holiday , millions of atheists and people of other religions celebrate it purely for the joyous and therapeutic atmosphere it brings .
EldritchAnimation t1_iyhty1o wrote
He hated Christmas, the whole Christmas season!
Now, please don’t ask why, no one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn’t screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps his shoes were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small
beingforelorn t1_iyhucpl wrote
Doesn't sound oppressive in the slightest, amazing point. Quote the grinch and prove my point further...
Lemmings to a cliff.
KingOfTheCaucasians t1_iyhw6ey wrote
Sorry you feel that way
beingforelorn t1_iyhwgd5 wrote
You shouldn't feel sorry, thats part of the oppressive nature of the season. We can all feel however we want about the season and none of those feelings are inherently wrong or sad or pitiful.
realchoice t1_iyhydtl wrote
Indeed, they are.
whiteboy_joe t1_iyjdt7e wrote
No, they aren't, and please explain why you believe they are.
beingforelorn t1_iyhyjj0 wrote
Indeed, what is?
realchoice t1_iyjjo6w wrote
Whatever feeling you have which I deem sad to me. It's not a math equation, it's a subjective feeling. You feeling bummed out is sad to me. That's all.
KingOfTheCaucasians t1_iyjuk0s wrote
I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinions and feelings. I still feel sorry that you don't find joy in the holiday season though. I enjoy it because of the time I get to spend with my family. Not much more to it than that.
I wish you the best regardless! No hard feelings
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