Submitted by Unity-Druid t3_zbm61o in philosophy
Tidezen t1_iyt7sru wrote
I feel this way a lot these days. My own specific case is, I'm what you might call a "forever" lover. By which I mean, when I fall in love with someone, it basically lasts forever. I can't just "turn it off", the way that other people seem to be able to. I know that there's got to be something neurologically different about me, and others like me. But I've had to destroy certain parts of myself, because the common perception is that if someone stops loving you, you're expected to stop loving them and "get over it" eventually.
I've been forced to basically "cut out" certain parts of myself, emotionally, because my manner of loving is deemed pathological to most people. And, to me, they were some of my best aspects, my biggest strengths. It felt like killing a major part of myself. Like having to take your dog in to be put down. Except I've been through it multiple times over.
I think about this strongly in the domain of LGBTQ+ acceptance. Decades ago, homosexuality was seen as a "mental illness" by psychologists, and conversion therapy was the norm. Anything that didn't fall under cis/het rules was deemed a problem to get rid of.
The minority group wasn't seen as a group deserving its own validation, but a collection of sick (or "evil") people.
For me, well, we all know that people routinely say such things to their partner such as, "I'll love you forever, no matter what"--and while it's nice to hope for the best, in reality, when the vast majority of people say those things, they're being hopeful, romantic, and/or metaphoric.
And those people, in the majority, think that that's the case for all others as well. They're not aware that there's a smaller group of people who literally can say "I'll love you forever, no matter what" and have that be a factual statement, not just wishful thinking.
So, the people who are more "mood-based" or conditional lovers end up screwing over the lives of people who are "forever" lovers. And people do die as a result--it's one of the bigger reasons for suicides. (edit: and depression, which can cut years off of life expectancy, same with drugs.)
I guess it might not tie in that strongly to this thought experiment. But we do ask people to injure certain parts of themselves simply because "that's what works for most people". But most people aren't all people. Certain "medicines" are poisonous, or even deadly to us.
And the people in my life, like the Healer, really do want the best for me. That's definitely part of what makes it so frustrating, even maddening. It's just like being gay in a conservative community that doesn't tolerate it, and feeling like there is something wrong with you for not being "normal". Even your loved ones can't understand, and want you to change.
If this makes perfect sense to anyone, I consider you "my people". :)
Polychrist t1_iytif86 wrote
I have the same “affliction” and the exact same cynicism to all the metaphoric promising of the mood-based lovers. I’ve also been struggling quite a bit lately for that exact reason, so it’s incredibly serendipitous that I happened by your comment just now. It’s unbelievably reassuring to have someone else say the things that I’ve been thinking when they didn’t even know that I was listening. Because that makes it real. That means… you’re not saying it to make me feel better, you’re saying it because you actually believe it.
And that makes me feel a little bit less lonely, and a little bit more hopeful that this “pathology” isn’t such a horrible thing to have. Because, yeah, it is one of my favorite things about myself. And I’ll give up on this world before I give up on that part of me.
So thanks, stranger, for making me feel less crazy. I appreciate you.
Tidezen t1_iyu7qhd wrote
Thanks...your reply speaks to me, too. Gives me a little hope, for the long path we travelers often take.
I, um, have seen you on another sub that I (very occasionally) lurk in, but is it okay if I talk to you about that in PM? I totally consider you "my people", no worries :)
Polychrist t1_iyubcri wrote
Absolutely you can
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