Submitted by Unity-Druid t3_zbm61o in philosophy
wowie6543 t1_iyuwupx wrote
Reply to comment by wowie6543 in Thought Experiment - The Hermit and the Giant by Unity-Druid
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Moloch did not have an ethical responsibility, as he is hannibal. u could say, hannibal has an ethical responsibility to keep himself alive, but thats also questionable. as i said earlier, there is nothing unethical about suicide, if u have the right moral. Which leads us agin to the question, how strong & how exactly was the drive of hannibal structured? what are the expectations of the townfolk exactly? as long as we dont know, we cant be sure here.
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well it mostly teaches, that we must know a lot more of the categorys & movements we are talking about, before we make conclusions or ask new unprecise questions. this is no joke, this is as profound as it gets! un- & consciousness are interacting through a permanent rationalisation of all our goals. its a permanent conflict we are in. a permanent ethical managment to make things work. We must understand which goals and how the goals interact to understand and transform it - if needed. To know is the way to act better! this is a basic element of life! its our fate!
we act this way, because we dont know it better. we want certain things, because its the thing we think that makes us happy & we dont want other things, becasue we think they dont make us happy. so it is also our fate, to KNOW(experience/value which things makes us "happy". Or shoud i say, makes us as we want us to be.
What makes hannibal happy/unhapy?
what makes awen/the townfolk happy/unhappy?
why cant we combine it?
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it depends on what hannibal & awen (and all of their parts!) want! and thats exactly what a psychologist/doctor/healer must find out! this is hopefully also what god wants us to do. fullfill our dreams without hurting each other to much. Awen was not only a healer, he was also hannibals friend. So if hanibal wanted to make suicide, awen must find a solution for his or better said Hannibals ethical problem, of helping Hannibal/himself to fullfill his dream to be dead or fullfill his dream to be alive in a different way. as this is not a very easy task, it would be best to "analyze" hannibals wish to die. as this is the only way to find out, what is best for all an gods inention in the end.
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well, see at point 8. & all others. the problem depends on your moral standards u set for the people and if u give them their own morals. If u think, life is something that no sngle person can decide alone, then you have a resposnsibility to that law to keep the patient alive. even if he suffers and so on. but as u can see, this leads to pain and much more conflicts. specially if you cant/wont treat the pain.
If u think, one should decide for their own what is best for them, then u should help them to find the best solution for their wishes. if they want do die because of x, y or z, then its is just like it is.
if hannibal only wants a part of him to die, totally eliminated or transformed into somthing new, then we must figure out if this is possible!
yet again, it teaches us that we have to learn & solve all the different social expectations & conflicts & we life in an ambivalent world, where life and death - knowing & not knowing - are very close & that we are depending of different parts that all work for their own but also together. its not easy to make everybody happy or life healthy & a long life - but its possible in many many cases!
be aware of that dude!
ps very long work here, hope it helps
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