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strangeapple t1_iz9o6iu wrote

Reply to comment by signor_bardo in Amia Srinivasan, philosopher: ‘We must create a sexual culture that destabilizes the notion of hierarchy’ by Logibenq

>So hierarchy is socially constructed and inherently evil, and most people are either consciously oppressive or passively duped into internalizing oppressive ideas.

Pretty much. I think hierarchy might work for animals in small packs, but for us humans I believe it creates unmeasurable amount of anxiety and suffering. If we, as a society, truly saw other people as our equals, would we still look down upon homeless as lesser people? The trap is psychological - the more invested we become in an idea of becoming better than the so-called 'lowest' the more we see someone challenging this idea as a threat, or a contender, to our self-worth. If it makes you feel any better am a total retard.

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signor_bardo t1_iz9q7lm wrote

I get you, I even agree to some extent, I just don’t think anarchy works. Society needs hierarchy to function, but we should work to establish fair hierarchies that don’t rest on physically and psychologically destructive exploitation.

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strangeapple t1_iz9vls7 wrote

Anarchy is not something that was ever meant to work in and of itself. It is an ideological direction against structural concentrations of power. We're somewhat talking about same things here with different semantics. Now, we could go deep into debate on how to define hierarchy, but I think it's easier to agree that we can't fully eliminate concentrations of power from society. My idea of anarchy is moving and promoting towards dimishing these concentrations of power. As to how would be yet another whole, more complex and multi-dimensional, topic.

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JCPRuckus t1_iz9wlwc wrote

We are animals and hierarchy only becomes more important in large groups if merely for logistical purposes.

If we need 20 people to go pick the fruit today before it spoils, someone has to be responsible for, and capable of, getting 20 people to go do that. We can't just hope that 20 people feel like picking fruit today... And now you've got a management hierarchy... This issue only compounds the more specialized jobs you have and the more tightly they need to be coordinated.

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