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breadandbuttercreek t1_j1wx8nc wrote

"how all actions or events are determined by prior actions or events"

The problem is that there are an infinite number of prior events determining any event, (even in the seconds just before an event) and most of these are chaotic atomic/molecular scale events. You can't seperate events based on scale, they are all events and they all affect the future.

Then you have the problem of the big bang. In a determinist universe everything expands in a uniform manner, there is no time and no complexity. It is only by introducing quantum uncertainty that we get a universe at all.


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breadandbuttercreek t1_j1yg6q1 wrote

With all the determinists on r/philosophy I would be disappointed if I wasn't downvoted. I would expect more, they must be determined to ignore me.


xyllria t1_j1y9ip9 wrote

That sounds like the concept of a quantum computer made analogous to our human brain! Sorta cool! And Ive always liked to consider that different regions of space move independently from others, it's hard to perceive because it is in nature nothing, and I do try to acknowledge along a certain line what's outside of our biological perception, and I wonder if perhaps the universe on a larger scale tends to expand, then eventually contracts back over time to a singularity point/blackhole with allll da mass in the cosmos and den explodes again! Is it just me or is there a very identifiable balance made analogous over so many different scales? I don't think there's much actual consideration for me as to the world being solely deterministic, really because of the size of the universe it doesn't make sense that of all the things to happen, that they'd all happen the same. I've spent a LOT of time grasping scale of size, not only in distance but in time. It's all too true that when considering that "big bang" event, we are being silly to assume that there was a definitive "before", or that we're even in an "after" rather one of many, and at a higher scale too, there's not likely "boundaries" to space at reaches or an edge I don't think. I think the kind of cycle we exist in exists in space, just people should expand what they define space as.