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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_j1yl4c5 wrote

Reply to comment by GrymanOne in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024

> The marionette controls the puppet, the puppet cannot do otherwise, but surely it's the puppet's story to tell, is it not?

Because the strings controlling us isn't something separate or different to us.

One could say that everything we do is fully determined by our DNA and environment/upbringings/experiences. But someone's DNA and experiences aren't something separate and external to a person.

A person is their DNA and experiences.

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VitriolicViolet t1_j21xxkx wrote

this, both sides really, really try hard to deny what makes up 'you'.

i make all my own choices by definition as 'i' am the sum of my memories, neurons, genes, culture etc the free willers think we have souls and the determinists believe the body and mind are separate.

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