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VitriolicViolet t1_j21xyv9 wrote

the free willers think we have souls and the determinists believe the body and mind are separate.

this entire debate is pointless when both sides require what is effectively magic in order for their beliefs to function.

the most rational position is that the universe is deterministic and we make our own choices.


Studstill t1_j22wu13 wrote

So why is there a debate at all when this seems so obviously and demonstrably correct?

Is it just a theists vs anti-theists thing that immediately goes to the irrational place?