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[deleted] t1_j2409c8 wrote

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OwlofMinervaAtDusk t1_j241bgl wrote

Tech firms are constantly surprised by unintended consequences of ML algorithms - there’s researchers who make careers studying them

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[deleted] t1_j241l50 wrote

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cope413 t1_j247mb3 wrote

>But I disapprove of any attempt to use morality and moral reasoning to criticize them.

Then on what basis would you criticize them?

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[deleted] t1_j2486dk wrote

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oramirite t1_j24c710 wrote

But without morality there is no "care", that's a moral act.

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oramirite t1_j24c4i8 wrote

Your first sentence describes morality. The philosophical discussion of wether we should hurt other people is the moral dilemma. Wether you want to use other words or not, that's what it is.

You seem to just be struggling with what you define as moral just like every other human being.

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cmustewart t1_j249qd2 wrote

Who doesn't understand this already? Given the incredible depth of human ignorance, I'd imagine a fair amount of corporate tech hierarchy hasn't given it a single thought. My intuition is that the vast majority of humans have a view of AI driven by cultural depiction, rather than by experience or education.

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oramirite t1_j24cgja wrote

Your intuition? You kinda just sound like you're being holier than thou. If you have researched AI, and know what it can do, then anyone else is capable of that as well. I don't know what trade you're in but it's not hard to do the research and understand the ethical risks of AI in our society and how it will launder existing societal biases deeper into our culture.

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cmustewart t1_j24yd84 wrote

Intuition just meaning my take on it, based on what I know and believe. Intuition as opposed to me having access to some sort of truth.

I disagree that its not hard to do the research and understand the ethical risks. I come from a software background, which lays some of the groundwork for research and understanding. Someone from a non-tech background with a layperson's knowledge might face a significant struggle understanding all the foundational elements underlying AI and it's ethical issues.

Someone whose life is mostly consumed by work and family life could easily never give these issues much or any thought, because it seems irrelevant to their life. In my mind, this is a serious problem. AI is changing, and will continue to change, the lives of nearly everyone in ways they are unable to see or comprehend.

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oramirite t1_j24bvnc wrote

So if I removed you from the earth because I perceive your amoral behavior as disruptive to the moral system, you'd clearly have no problem with that. Do you just act in your own self interest all the time? Do you have any relationships? Do you believe in treating other humans with respect?

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