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Meta_Digital t1_j2cd4y1 wrote

Reply to comment by ShalmaneserIII in How the concept: Banality of evil developed by Hanna Arendt can be applied to AI Ethics in order to understand the unintentional behaviour of machines that are intelligent but not conscious. by AndreasRaaskov

In the absence of greed or threat, we'd live in a nice world.

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ShalmaneserIII t1_j2cdbcx wrote

Hunting buffalo. Hunter-gatherer levels of productivity are about what people would do if they can't accumulate capital for themselves or if they're not coerced by external threat.

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Meta_Digital t1_j2cdhdi wrote

So then is your argument that a productive world is better than one that is pleasant to live in?

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ShalmaneserIII t1_j2cdsvu wrote

My argument is that a world without productivity is less pleasant than one with it. Do you like air conditioning? Running water for nice hot showers even in midwinter? Fresh veggies in January?

Basically, what you think of as pleasant- apparently being time to lounge around with your friends- is not what I think of as pleasant.

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Meta_Digital t1_j2ce014 wrote

My idea of pleasant is a world where everyone's needs are met as well as some of our wants. Production matters only insofar as it meets those needs and wants. Excess production, like we're seeing today, only destroys us and the planet.

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ShalmaneserIII t1_j2ci0e0 wrote

Which means you lose. You will be outproduced by others, and will not have the resources to stop them from doing as they wish.

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