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armandebejart t1_j2lxoat wrote

Reply to comment by Oninonenbutsu in Atheistic Naturalism does not offer any long-term pragmatic outcome of value when compared to Non-Naturalist views, such as Theism by _Zirath_

More precisely, the “illusory “ clause is false.

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Oninonenbutsu t1_j2lyzq8 wrote

It's all false: https://sites.nd.edu/arcadian-dialogues/files/2020/01/The-Convergence-of-Naturalism-and-Teleology-Grace-Schippers.pdf

Though there's a whole variety of different views on purpose under naturalism, or views which don't necessarily conflict with naturalism. But you're correct insofar as that the "illusory ones" stand out, as I'm not sure if anyone holds that view. Either objective purpose exists or it does not lol.

But maybe I'm not understanding what they mean with illusory.

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