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monkeylogic42 t1_j2tkv7t wrote

Reply to comment by Rethious in Look on the dark side | We must keep the flame of pessimism burning: it is a virtue for our deeply troubled times, when crude optimism is a vice by ADefiniteDescription

Where are the conservation efforts? There are so little it may as well be 0. As far as what optimism means, it kind of is denial:

op·ti·mism /ˈäptəˌmiz(ə)m/ noun 1. hopefulness and confidence about the future or the successful outcome of something.

PHILOSOPHY the doctrine, especially as set forth by Leibniz, that this world is the best of all possible worlds.

If we stopped all unnecessary consumption today and all efforts went to remediation of the damage already done, it still won't be enough to fix the world. We have finite resources and there isn't a global will to do anything differently. We've blown past every warning light and marker with thoughts and prayers.

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Rethious t1_j2tmlfc wrote

>There mat be so little it may well be 0.

I’m sorry, but that’s a fundamentally unserious view.

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monkeylogic42 t1_j2tngks wrote

How much of the rainforest is destroyed per day? Wetlands? How many wells of oil still spewing how much in to the environment? How many forever chemicals spills have been remedied? The ramifications of our actions have only begun, and the actions haven't stopped. None the less the underdeveloped areas that don't even have a clue or care to tally pollution accurately.

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goes231even t1_j2uwec0 wrote

What is unserious is believing the fairytale that says any of our meager efforts toward conservation are making even the slightest dent in the problem as the rate of the destruction that got us here in the first place is not only not slowing down but is actually increasing.

Any efforts toward saving the environment are essentially a capitalistic dog and pony show at this point and has even reached the mainstream news outlets.

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Rethious t1_j2vad9c wrote

This is the exact type of pessimistic fatalism that is antithetical to actually accomplishing anything.

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