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doodcool612 t1_j6n6ub5 wrote

Reply to comment by AtheistComic in Happiness is an essentially nihilistic ideal — it is the best goal to follow when there is nothing else on the table. A meaningful life on the other hand can embrace more of life including struggles and suffering because it is oriented towards a higher ideal by thelivingphilosophy

If this is true, it contradicts OP’s thesis that we can rule out happiness as meaningful.

Also, do we really believe this about meaning being entirely subjective? I forget the name of the philosopher, but I remember from intro to philosophy the counter-example of a man who finds meaning in eating his own shit and watching paint dry and torturing babies. There is a big difference between “I can’t prove an objective, universal meaning” and “baby torture is literally identically meaningful as striving to cure cancer.”

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black_brook t1_j6o6yon wrote

Questions of whether a given person's chosen meaning is wrong or if it can be objectively judged are independent of whether it is meaning.

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