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rdwarz OP t1_jdduulv wrote

Reply to comment by savage_pooh in A pic I took in a protest in France by rdwarz

>Are there alternative solutions to the eventual collapse of the retirement system?

idk I protest because Macron is globally a bad president not specifically because of the raising of the retirement age

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volneyave t1_jder3et wrote

Work till your 67? That's what I'm doing over here in America.

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postedUpOnTheBlock t1_jdethep wrote

Is there no focus? Hear me out, I’m not bashing you, but what is the point of protesting if the person next to you doesn’t even know you’re not even focused on the same thing? At that point you just become a big crowd making noise.

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rdwarz OP t1_jdeuyqo wrote

We all agree that we are tired of his bullshit and that either he starts listening to us or he quits, and even if we are not focused on the same thing, being a big noisy crowd is still useful because he has to understand that we are not going to let him do what he wants without protest

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postedUpOnTheBlock t1_jdewgq3 wrote

Right, welcome to nearly every persons mind that has an elected government running their country.

If you don’t have a focus on the bs you’re sick of, the next SOB that comes in is going to pick up where they left off. A flashlight is just going to illuminate the person everyone already knows you’re angry with, but a powerful laser will burn the warts away.

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Machiavelli1480 t1_jddw11w wrote

So you are in favor of increasing the retirement age to the proposed age?

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rdwarz OP t1_jddw9w1 wrote

that's not what I said

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Machiavelli1480 t1_jddww0q wrote

Fair enough, but pretty much everyone agrees it will be insolvent if the current course is maintained.

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Hugeclick t1_jddxi5l wrote

Don't worry, they have money. They will find money. And i won't work until i'm 64. Fuck this shit.

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Machiavelli1480 t1_jdef35x wrote

If you are from my generation, i hope you have the foresight to realize that by the time you retire, social security wont be what it is for todays retiree's. I'm american, and expecting nothing from social security, invest accordingly. If something is insolvent, its insolvent, rioting wont make more money appear. France wont be able to exploit africa forever, even though im sure they will try.

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NoMooseSoup4You t1_jdeje6c wrote

You’ll have social security, it won’t be as much as current retirees, but you’ll have it. It also should not be your retirement plan. It should be a part of your retirement strategy. Social security was never meant to be a retirement plan for Americans. It’s purpose has really always been an assistance program to ensure adequate basic needs for retirees. You’re not retiring to a golf course in Florida on social security.

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Machiavelli1480 t1_jdejplp wrote

Obviously, but i think a smart person would look at SS as a bonus, but shouldnt expect it, especially if you are under 40.

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NoMooseSoup4You t1_jdek3ip wrote

I wouldn’t say “obviously”. Many people are very irresponsible when it comes to retirement planning and think social security is this pension gold mine designed to give retirees plenty of money to live comfortably.

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Machiavelli1480 t1_jdekkek wrote

Well in the context of our conversation, i feel like we both made it obvious that expecting ss to cover the majority of living expenses for 15-20 years was a rather absurd. I'm sure there are people that think that, but they will be in for a rude awakening if that doesn't change. Compound that with inflation, it can make a poorly planned retirement miserable.

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NoMooseSoup4You t1_jdelhka wrote

Yeah, many people won’t be able to retire, unfortunately. We live longer and are having less children. Not a great combination for comfortable retirement plans.

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