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Obliviontoad t1_je9lmsz wrote

Have you been to the ancient ruins of Detroit? So moving.

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Centrist_gun_nut t1_je9v4y6 wrote

Detroit is a ton wealthier than Athens. A better US comparison are small cities like Jacksonville Florida or Grand Rapids Michigan. Although GDP per capita in the US are also much higher.

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192838475647382910 t1_je9kjnt wrote

What did you expect? buildings on clouds in the sky..?

This is what you call urbanization and it’s everywhere…

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Centrist_gun_nut t1_je9u83j wrote

Dense, historical, and not very wealthy cities in Europe look like this. IMHO it’s not awful, it’s just not what very very rich cities in the west look like.

The reality is that Detroit’s GDP is roughly $200 Billion per year, which is also roughly the GDP of all of Greece (and like 10x Athens).

Americans often have a pretty skewed impression of how wealthy (or not) other countries are based on non-economic metrics like high crime in inner cities.

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emmasdad01 t1_je9l4rt wrote

I imagine there are parts that are more preserved from a historical standpoint?

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sidetracked_ t1_je9ncvo wrote

My GF and I stayed in the city with a view of the Parthenon. On the rooftop at night we would look out and see this amazing historical structure, raised on a hill and perfectly illuminated. We felt that, despite it being thousands of years old, it still gave off the same aura as ancient and early modern Greece in its prime. Then we looked around us at a city in shambles. Barred windows and doors. Graffiti and trash everywhere. People openly shooting heroin at night and in broad daylight. It was quite the contrast and we just felt sad. The city that fathered free thought and democracy deserves better

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Jewey t1_jeajal6 wrote

most of the awfulness of this photo is the color gradient. Take the same shot on a sunny day and it no longer looks dystopian.

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bbgirlouthere t1_jeaqfg8 wrote

Yeah I was in Athens last summer and some of the views from the hills were pretty cool. There are some beautiful neighborhoods, lots of amazing restaurants, and yeah, definitely a bunch of graffiti and old buildings. Idk to me it just seemed like a city with some real character.

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Iliamna_remota t1_je9x96k wrote

What a fucking dump. Do they not have building codes? Jesus.

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