I wanted to be something really scary this year, so I went as Marjorie Taylor Greene.ThreadbareHalo t1_iufazd8 wrote
Reply to comment by PissedFurby in I wanted to be something really scary this year, so I went as Marjorie Taylor Greene. by us2bcool
A lot of criticism here makes sense to me but this doesn’t. Like… there are people talking about literally shooting lgbtq people running for politics. There are people in government currently working to ban books on MLK Jr. we have laws on the books to fire someone for discussing law abiding citizens of the community because some people don’t think they’re as equal as other people. Somebody just broke into a persons house and attacked them with a hammer because of stuff politicians said. Like… if that doesn’t inhabit some part of your brain pretty regularly and concern you that… I dunno… those seem like fairly important things to be worried about to normal people. That should be scary to people.
PissedFurby t1_iuflxp0 wrote
its a holiday, a party. where you're supposed to be stepping away from the depressing shit about reality to have some fun. spend the other 350 days a year clutching your pearls in fear that someone (a tiny Infinitesimal percentage of society that is radicalized or mentally ill etc ) is coming for you and your way of life or whatever. there's a difference between being concerned with things, and becoming fanatical about them, letting them leak into every corner of your life and brain until it just becomes part of your personality and normal people roll their eyes at you behind your back lol
also, heres a reality check for you. people get their houses broken into all day every day in this country, and get attacked with hammers and knives and everything else. you only give a shit about this one because they're an elite that banners your political ideologies and it has political motivations that you can latch onto to validate your bipartisan hatred that has, like i said, leaked into your brain. and guise it as "fear"
ThreadbareHalo t1_iufp6bd wrote
Respectfully I think it’s a problem when anyone gets their house broken into. I don’t really find a need to jump to diminish it when it’s a person I don’t like. The fact that we’re at a point where some people DO feel the need to say “people get their houses broken into all the time, you only…” might point to a problem that might make reasonable people scared enough continuously that blowing off a little steam at a party seems a reasonable way to maintain sanity.
1/3 of one particular party agrees that violence is needed to solve the problems of America and 1/5 of the country believes in QAnon [1]. That’s not a minority. That’s a scary large percentage. Imagine one out of every five people you see in a grocery ok with the belief that they might need to commit violence to solve the problems america faces… I think it’s reasonable to be slightly concerned about that.
hellabad t1_iugc3zu wrote
A quick 5 second check shows me that you live in /r/politics where its basically a left leaning echo chamber. These parties you go to might not be left leaning echo chambers, people that voted for Trump are probably at that party and the last thing they want to deal with is politics at a fucking party.
Here's a better example that doesn't involve politics but its the same thing, imagine you're having dinner with a group of people and then someone decided to talk about how they are a vegan and how everyone in the group is a shitty person for eating meat. Lets say you were one of those people, would you really want to be around this person? This is literally the same type of person in the picture.
Honestly I think it would be hilarious if more people dress up as Trump supporters for Halloween and watch them get assaulted by their own side.
ThreadbareHalo t1_iugdygz wrote
Yeah I do. I would prefer not to. I want to go back to a time when I don’t have to care about politics. But we don’t get there by not having these conversations. We get there by discussing and talking about our fears. And I hope, by my contributions in that subreddit, by making sure those discussions aren’t just emotion based but have research backing evidence and citations for those discussions and fears and calling out when anyone regardless of political leaning makes an unfounded statement. I hope that that’s not a bad thing. I don’t know for sure, but it seems better than the alternative.
I think the difference here between your example of veganism (of which there are reasonable pros and cons) and MTG (who has repeatedly called for her political opponents to be killed and who has repeatedly gone to white supremacy rallies…) is a matter of extremism. Calling for your opponents to be killed should be a thing we all agree is wrong. Going to white supremacy rallies should be a thing we all agree is wrong. That shouldn’t be a thing anybody at any party should be saying is a topic with two sides. This person seems to be hosting their party, it’s their choice if they want to make that a discussion. I think it’s a worthwhile discussion to have.
hellabad t1_iugm9jf wrote
There's your problem, everything is driven by emotion. That's why hate sells so well. While I don't support Biden or Trump I'm always fascinated how a entire website can lean so heavily to one side and a lot of people are oblivious to it but its because hate sells so well. The whole "its ok to do it to them because they are bad" is not a good look.
For example right now, this picture that's clearly anti trump as well as a picture of Elon Musk and Trump with Ghislaine Maxwell are all sitting on the front page of /r/pics even tho the 2 pictures of Ghislaine are old as fuck. If you look at the comments its nothing but hate.
ThreadbareHalo t1_iugnzw7 wrote
I think those pics are dumb because both Ghislane and Epstein frequently appeared with celebrities just to appear with celebrities. However I don’t think it’s hate to generally be angry at child sex traffickers. It’s just silly to try to insinuate something from those pictures. However I AM angry that no one seems to be trying to see if there’s more to those pictures… we know of almost no rich people that used ghislanes services when there absolutely were some that did. I would think we’d be angriest that famous child predators ARE out there but seem be protected from exposure. I don’t give a damn if they’re democrat republican or Martian. I don’t like sexual predators regardless of political affiliation. That’s not cool… but to your point, those pictures aren’t actual evidence of anything.
It’s not hate to quote what people say or to provide statistics for the things that are inaccurate. I think what you might be seeking is equality in people praising a certain person but that’s not exactly a reasonable expectation. Some people might be going out of their way to make enemies with people, for example by saying entire races are rapists and murderers, or saying an entire sexual orientation are child predators. When you’re seeking to make enemies of people in order to be popular… you’re going to have more enemies than friends. That’s just a reality of life. It would honestly be weird if it were otherwise. Perhaps if people wanted an equal appreciation in places like r politics they could try making party platforms focused on being friendly and inclusive to people instead of making party platforms intentionally trying to say certain people are less than human shouldn’t be learned about and, in some cases, shot for being who they are.
Otherwise we’re saying there should be an equal amount of people who like the people saying some of the people on Reddit are subhuman or should have less rights. Like what do you think is gonna happen? Why aren’t bullies liked by equal amounts of people? Tons of those people up and downvote shit. If you want people liking your political stuff on Reddit maybe don’t make pissing off a group that makes up 1/5 of the population for one part of your platform and half of the population for the other!
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