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Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_j9ufg9k wrote

Just bought a new car. No haggling. There were basically no new cars on the lot. You had to go in and reserve a spot. luckily they didn't need me to put down a deposit. Once the car came in we went out and test drove it and just bought it at MSRP. This was a Toyota dealer and this seemed to be what everybody was doing. We looked at other dealerships and nothing was any better. We wanted a specific Toyota.

In terms of used cars, there was really nothing on the lot either...

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Puzzleheaded-Equal70 t1_j9uqcsc wrote

Very similar situation for me with a Kia dealer as well.

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Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_j9us4iu wrote

damn supply chains and demand...

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ocdcdo t1_j9vwtxw wrote

Not really anymore. Manufacturers are making less cars and keeping prices up on purpose now.

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Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_j9w5253 wrote

Data doesn't support that conclusion. Also economics doesn't either. They can't jack up the price of cars enough to make up for the millions of extra cars they could sell has there been enough supply.

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Kfrr t1_j9yiev8 wrote

Bought new in 2021.

Shopped 8 dealerships for incentives. Didn't care what was on the lot.

Built the car on the website, gave them the code for the build.

$500 deposit, car arrived in a month.

Incentives I negotiated was 0% apr and $2000 off MSRP.

Any other method besides this is incorrect.

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hotbakedgoods t1_j9ymnjs wrote

Must not have been an in demand car then

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Kfrr t1_j9yph1m wrote

Fuck if I know. Forester sport.

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hotbakedgoods t1_j9ypm86 wrote

Pretty bold to say any method besides yours is incorrect when you don’t even know how in demand the car you were purchasing was lmao

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Kfrr t1_j9ypzvo wrote

I was trying to get a rav 4 and it was impossible. I moved down the line of similar model types that I would actually care to drive. Next one on the list bit.

If you refuse to look at other SUVs and all you want is a rav 4, you aren't getting a new car any time soon.

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hotbakedgoods t1_j9yq7wn wrote

Yes and that’s why you could negotiate off of the msrp… for a car that doesn’t stay on the lot of more than half a day there is no negotiating at the moment

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Kfrr t1_j9yqu9s wrote

The lot doesn't matter when they're building the vehicle for you, to your spec.

The $2000 off MSRP was a standard incentive they were offering at the time. $2500 off an enclave, for example. They actually tried to pull it when my car came in, saying they weren't running it anymore. I told them they could keep the car and I'd go somewhere else.

The real negotiation was the 0% financing.

The goal here is to pit the manufacturer against the dealership. Imagine getting in touch with Subaru and saying "this dealership won't let me buy a car from you".

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Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_j9yp92a wrote

Good for you. This isn't happening in 2023 at least in my experience.

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Kfrr t1_j9ypqq0 wrote

So that means you have your build code already? What is it?

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