Submitted by 69FunnyNumberGuy420 t3_11a2eo9 in pittsburgh
uglybushes t1_j9pgp8s wrote
Reply to comment by Vozegro in Pittsburgh driverless truck startup Locomation to close by 69FunnyNumberGuy420
Why not
Vozegro t1_j9pi203 wrote
After $100 billion spent, the technology has hardly improved.
For them to work on a mass scale, the infrastructure in this country needs to be updated to remove inefficiencies and non-standardized vehicle pathways.
Pittsburgh is a prime example of this, we have so many fucked up intersections.
The government has no incentive to fix these, because they’re not a problem for human drivers.
By the time the government would ever spend time and effort, humanity will have probably killed itself off.
We’re never going to get a fully autonomous vehicle society.
babyyodaisamazing98 t1_j9pzpu7 wrote
Hardly improved is a classic acclimation bias. It’s like when people say battery tech hasn’t improved.
The technology has made giant leaps and bounds over the last 20 years.
Blind spot sensors, automatic parking, auto lane changing, automatic emergency braking, and full self driving in geofenced areas are all standard technology now that didn’t exist 15 years ago.
It might not be as far along as some people would like, but it’s made huge progress in a short time.
Vozegro t1_j9q0fzz wrote
Yeah and in the last 5 it has not, despite spending increasing 1000x. No huge progress has been made, just like with batteries. The technology is reaching its plateau.
Volts-2545 t1_j9r6kba wrote
I test FSD systems and promise you that these systems have improved greatly. Just because they’re not ready yet doesn’t mean they are a failure. Just needs another few years to cook. Realistically level 3 systems for highways could already be there if companies prioritized it. Everyone jokes abt tesla but autopilot has been a rock solid lane keep system for half a decade, and has been on sale for years.
uglybushes t1_j9pkd6l wrote
You don’t think autonomous driving tech has improved? Mercedes has a vehicle that takes full responsibility if an accident happens. It’s coming
Vozegro t1_j9pkysr wrote
Mercedes new car is not autonomous at all. Under certain conditions the driver may remove their hands and feet from controlling the car. It’s called “level 3”, and is basically only able to be used on freeways.
The technology isn’t there and doesn’t work. If it did, we’d have car rolling around that have no one inside of them.
There has been minimal growth in the past half decade.
Gladhands t1_j9pz5ur wrote
I have a 3 year old Subaru that does that. Lmao
uglybushes t1_j9pl8us wrote
So they do have level 3? Which is very autonomous. So level 4 and 5 are coming.
Vozegro t1_j9pn1j5 wrote
Level 3 is not autonomous. You sound like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Have a nice life.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pmkrx wrote
You're not responding to a single point in the OP's post.
Level 3 is not autonomous, it's basically highway driver assist.
The technology does not work and the people in this sub who were saying a decade ago that self-driving cars would rule the streets by 2020 were wrong.
akmalhot t1_j9pxy2f wrote
but tesla says they have had full self driving autopilot for years! the stock price says its true /s
YIMBYYay t1_j9r6rta wrote
Autonomous, at least in the sense that this company and others are looking to do is purely highway driving, for now. Last mile autonomy is still a long ways off.
Locomotive shutdown because venture capital money is locking up due to interest rate increases. And there are dozens of other companies working in the same space that have better/more advanced tech. Volvo, Mercedes, and others are pouring billions into driverless semis so there’s little need for a CMU startup in Pittsburgh.
pyrojoe121 t1_j9tu4ki wrote
You do realize that companies have fully self driving vehicles without a driver giving rides to paying customers in Arizona and the Bay Area at this very moment? Saying they have hardly made any progress is just laughably wrong.
DrErrl t1_j9qmbc8 wrote
Ya if you think only 100 billion has been spent, you’re grossly underestimating this. You’re incorrect on a whole plethora of levels friend!
Vozegro t1_j9qn5pd wrote
https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/auto-industrys-75b-bet-autonomy-not-paying
I rounded up. You’re wrong.
SayTheLineBart t1_j9pkzd1 wrote
Who says it needs to be “fully” autonomous? I’m sure plenty people who have long highway commutes would still benefit, same with truckers.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pmp51 wrote
Acrisure Stadium has an opening for goal post movers, if you're looking for work.
sebileis t1_j9ptt91 wrote
Hah, good one. Take my upvote.
SayTheLineBart t1_j9pnehc wrote
wtf yinz are weird.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9po7hn wrote
Highway driver assist exists and has been around for a long time.
"Fully" autonomous does not and never will.
Calling driver assist "autonomous driving" just encourages people to nap behind the wheel or jerk off or whatever instead of paying attention.
SayTheLineBart t1_j9pps7u wrote
There are autonomous cars driving the streets of San Francisco today. I have seen the Waymo cars without a driver with my own eyes.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9prkc9 wrote
Yes, and I'm Master P and this is my Bentley.
SayTheLineBart t1_j9ps6zq wrote
Ok now you’re just being deliberately ignorant.
Here you go: https://waymo.com/
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9psvj0 wrote
I'll believe it when I see these things in autonomous revenue service carrying paid passengers, and not a second beforehand. It's been "right around the corner" for over a decade now, and autonomous vehicle testing has shown that they're far deadlier per 100 million vehicle miles traveled than human drivers are.
SayTheLineBart t1_j9ptagr wrote
Dude, it’s already here. Lol, “Never” didn’t last very long.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pttoa wrote
Weird, I just tried to call an autonomous taxi here in Pittsburgh but all the companies developing them went out of business.
If you're a big enough sucker to watch that video and think it means autonomous taxis are ready to go everywhere and anywhere, let me also sell you on another great investment: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen
SayTheLineBart t1_j9pu0yf wrote
What was that you said about moving goalposts?
“The technology isn’t accessible to all 8 billion people on Earth, therefore it doesn’t exist and NEVER will!”
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9puahb wrote
You're looking at an easily faked demo video in a controlled setting and claiming that it means that the autonomous taxi is here and in revenue service now.
Like I said, call me when these things are in revenue service carrying paid passengers.
SayTheLineBart t1_j9pus4l wrote
Faked? Ok dude, /r/conspiracy is in need of your service. Watch out for those chemtrails
69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pv5kj wrote
Companies lie about their projects all the time. The entire Nikola hyrogen-powered truck demo was faked.
https://gizmodo.com/electric-truck-maker-nikola-to-pay-125-million-in-sec-1848251455 https://electrek.co/2020/09/14/nikola-nkla-admits-faking-video-driving-prototype-weak-response/
If you can watch that video and conclude from it that it means that self-driving cars are coming to streets everywhere in America any minute, well, there's one of you born every minute.
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