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ElJamoquio t1_ja7wa52 wrote

I know I'm in the minority, but I'm so sick of these shitheads stealing public space so they can make a profit.

I'd post a 'no parking' sign and then look into the tow laws - if they're blocking your driveway, my understanding is you're permitted to tow them.

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klauskervin t1_ja92fd9 wrote

These things are parked in my private lot 5 days a week. Spin doesn't care at all.

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ElJamoquio t1_ja93ubt wrote

(c) Property owner may remove vehicle.--The owner or other person in charge or possession of any property on which a vehicle is parked or left unattended in violation of the provisions of subsection (b) may remove or have removed the vehicle at the reasonable expense of the owner of the vehicle.  Such person who removes or has removed a vehicle left parked or unattended in violation of the provisions of subsection (b) shall have a lien against the owner of the vehicle, in the amount of the reasonable value of the costs of removing the vehicle plus the costs of storage.  Any city, borough, incorporated town or township may, by ordinance, provide for rates to be charged for removal of vehicles and for municipal regulation of authorized towing services. If storage charges are not set by the municipality, a maximum of $25 per day may be charged for storage.

https://codes.findlaw.com/pa/title-75-pacsa-vehicles/pa-csa-sect-75-3353/

"Vehicle." Every device in, upon or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except devices used exclusively upon rails or tracks. The term does not include a self-propelled wheelchair or an electrical mobility device operated by and designed for the exclusive use of a person with a mobility-related disability.

"Highway." The entire width between the boundary lines of every way publicly maintained when any part thereof is open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel. The term includes a roadway open to the use of the public for vehicular travel on grounds of a college or university or public or private school or public or historical park.

"Sidewalk." That portion of a street between curb lines, or the lateral lines of a roadway, and the adjacent property lines, intended for use by pedestrians.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=75&div=0&chpt=1&sctn=2&subsctn=0

https://pittsburghpa.gov/pli/towing-license

I'm not your lawyer.

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enemy_of_your_enema t1_ja87lbz wrote

I don't know why we'd be mad about these scooters stealing public space but not mad about people using cars to take up far, far more public space.

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Snoo71538 t1_ja8eyfl wrote

Ah yes, this persons driveway is the real issue.

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enemy_of_your_enema t1_ja8ib1l wrote

I was responding to the part of the comment about "public space," not the driveway thing. Of course these things, just like other people's cars, should not be parked in someone's private driveway without permission.

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ElJamoquio t1_ja8bg4u wrote

Who says I'm not upset we give things to car owners for free?

But the analogy to this isn't your personal car parking on the street, it's more comparable to a rental car facility parking their cars in your driveway.

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enemy_of_your_enema t1_ja8imw6 wrote

Yeah, I am with you on the driveway thing. But you mentioned public space in your comment (which this driveway is not), so I was commenting about that.

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ElJamoquio t1_ja8kbby wrote

The analogous situation to the company parking their scooters on the sidewalk is Hertz parking their cars in the middle of the traffic lane.

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hey--canyounot_ t1_jaa89um wrote

Yeah fr it's a weird complaint. They take up so little space and enable someone to not take up parking or contribute to pollution...huge boon.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_ja88n58 wrote

Many, many other cities have figured out how to have scooter parking spots and scooter-exclusive trails that prevent them from impacting you negatively.

You’re getting mad at a company and their customers who are reasonably providing the solution for a need (getting around town without having to park a car), when you should be getting mad at your city council for not providing appropriate parking spaces for them or bike trails.

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ElJamoquio t1_ja8bnxy wrote

Hey where do you live? I want to start renting out your space. Don't be mad at me, be mad at your city council, they're to blame for not giving me space to rent out to others so I can make a profit.

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spacepbandjsandwich t1_ja8cmmp wrote

Micro mobility companies that monetize transit are not a solution to car based infrastructure and lack of efficient public transportation

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Snoo71538 t1_ja8f7qw wrote

Eh, I’m mad at the users for not being good neighbors. You need a scooter, fine. Take the extra 30 seconds to find an appropriate place to park it.

Edit to add: this strikes me as someone who says “don’t blame the company for doing the thing the government lets them do”, but would turn around to “stop the government forcing companies to do things” if they did enact real regulations.

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