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mjcatl2 t1_j9s4q98 wrote

What specifically are you referring to with "anti-war?"

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vulpesgato OP t1_j9v18tc wrote

The US has been in 57 undeclared wars since WW2.

Moreover here is research whereby The US military has launched 469 foreign interventions. Including 251 since 1991

https://www.thepickaxe.xyz/single-post/469-wars

All these wars then lead to situations where members of Congress buy and sell Energy and War stocks after intelligence briefings. This occurs by both GOP and Democrats. This is an illegal and immoral act and also what is called "Insider Trading"

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mjcatl2 t1_j9v37fc wrote

This is why I used the word "specifically."

Are you seriously asking about a generalized "anti-war movement" that's not about a specific current war?

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ktxhopem3276 t1_j9s4r36 wrote

Which war?

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vulpesgato OP t1_j9v1fo6 wrote

57 undeclared wars since WW2

Plus all these

https://www.thepickaxe.xyz/single-post/469-wars

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ktxhopem3276 t1_j9v8fpj wrote

Are you against helping Ukraine? You aren’t being specific enough. That’s why people are making fun of you.

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vulpesgato OP t1_j9vddo9 wrote

I asked about anti war movement, when I was in college we would protest the us out of El Salvador, us out of Libya, us out of Iraq ,us out of Somalia Etc

so I would be protesting us out of Ukraine for sure because all wars are Bankers Wars they fund both sides

US should not push East towards Russia border just like we wouldn't want Russia to occupy Mexico or Canada

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ktxhopem3276 t1_j9vexxo wrote

> US should not push East towards Russia border just like we wouldn't want Russia to occupy Mexico or Canada

Thats not an accurate analogy. What is happening in Ukraine is analogous to the US invading Canada or Mexico with Russia coming to their defense with funds for weapons. We are not pushing toward Russia and in fact Russia is pushing towards Western Europe against the will of a sovereign nation who has asked for our help and in violation of international law.

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vulpesgato OP t1_j9vffrl wrote

You could not be more wrong on this topic but I don't have enough time for a low information troll like you to go over this

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ktxhopem3276 t1_j9vioii wrote

It doesn’t sound like you are interested in changing public opinion and instead you just want to find a safe space and echo chamber

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vulpesgato OP t1_j9vj6u8 wrote

Please visit the original statement I said I'm interested in an anti-war movement

The US has been in 57 undeclared wars since WW2.

Moreover here is research whereby The US military has launched 469 foreign interventions. Including 251 since 1991 https://www.thepickaxe.xyz/single-post/469-wars

All these wars then lead to situations where members of Congress buy and sell Energy and War stocks after intelligence briefings. This occurs by both GOP and Democrats. This is an illegal and immoral act and also what is called "Insider Trading"

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ktxhopem3276 t1_j9vjk26 wrote

Why are you against the US providing military aid to a democratically elected government in a country who has been invaded by an unwelcome aggressor who is bombing cities and homes?

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cthulhu_on_my_lawn t1_j9v9tiw wrote

How is that something to be anti? Are we supposed to be demanding withdrawal of US troops from Vietnam?

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BlimeyFish t1_j9sqhud wrote

Looking at the OP's history they strike me as a loon or a Russian. But I repeat myself.

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steelforgedstudios t1_j9tttgi wrote

Um, we're not in a war. You'd think a journalist and activist would know that.

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soonitwillbcold t1_j9uly3m wrote

Several tens of billions of dollars of military equipment would disagree.....you can also be anti-war without being pro-russia, there were plenty of people that disagreed with the war in Vietnam but weren't necessarily pro-communisim/ pro-VC etc.

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bdw91973 t1_j9t68ka wrote

Anti war? What war are we in, at least at this second

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vulpesgato OP t1_j9v1r1b wrote

With most of the southern hemisphere not counting Aus. & NZ

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ktxhopem3276 t1_j9v84lu wrote

Who are we currently at war with in South America, Asia and Africa? The southern hemisphere is 10% of world, and doesn’t include China or the Middle East

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Union_Heckin_Strong t1_j9taxm9 wrote

Have you heard of the Party for Socialism and Liberation? They have an anti-war coalition and some members are currently on the ground in East Palestine to interview people who are affected. Idk if they would want to talk, it would depend on who you write for, but it can't hurt to reach out to them as they're also trying to spread the word.

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vulpesgato OP t1_j9v1ua8 wrote

Thank you everyone else in this thread seemed to make fun of me but you're very kind for that lead

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Union_Heckin_Strong t1_j9w20y7 wrote

I'm not sure why they are... I think it might have to do with the conflation of anti-war and being pro-Russia. You can condemn Russia and also understand that when there's a war, it's the working class who pays the price. I can't help but feel a little disappointed, honestly. It's like we learned nothing from the endless wars in the Middle East.

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KentSmashtacos t1_j9sku98 wrote

Most people think the war is the good fight, de-escalation and triage are bad words.

There's been an inundation of people repeating water fine, pgh is too far away, and ignoring the potential long-term effects of persistent toxins being deposited in the soil that feed the greater Pittsburgh area.

Good luck. We need better independent journalism in the US.

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SWPenn t1_j9t46du wrote

The Tribune-Review published an in-depth story on Wednesday about the air, soil and water implications of the derailment based on science and the geologic structure of this region.

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KentSmashtacos t1_j9t7jug wrote

They have only tested for compounds of direct combustion, as if the burnoff was done in a laboratory setting.

Please explain then about the lack of reporting on products of incomplete combustion formed under the presence of chlorine ions, namely the potential for dioxins, furans, and persistent toxins that could have been deposited in the soil anywhere downwind of the burnoff.

Water and air tests are ineffective at recording exactly what was released since "obviously" they are fluids. In a week, they're one place next week, they move downstream.

There hasn't been nearly enough transparency of data or proper sampling to come to any conclusions about the safety and what all byproducts have been produced. For all we know, this could have been the biggest dioxin release in recorded history(unlikely) , but due to lack of testing, nobody knows.

This introduces unnecessary uncertainty into the equation that should have been resolved by now with proper testing.

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ktxhopem3276 t1_j9u4fwl wrote

The toxins are going to be diluted over such a wide area that only a small five mile radius around the crash will be affected. It’s not like accidents like this have never happened before and we have a general idea what the impact will be. Compared to fracking, and the plastics factory in beaver, the toxins from t accident will be diluted below the background levels of pollution in the air every day.

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