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chrisms150 t1_jeaqmgf wrote

I don't think many people interpret these signs as 2 hours per day. The sign should say per day in that case.

"15 min loading zones" have the same language. Should you only be allowed to load/unload once per vehicle per day?

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esushi t1_jeayr1w wrote

That there would be no feasible way to enforce anything but a "per day" rule I guess helps with the implication, at least. (It also does not state that it's referring to the street and not about parking mid-air, for instance)

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chrisms150 t1_jeb049q wrote

Plate scanners could record gps coordinates, use an area, then look at times. Was the plate in the same general area at 1pm? Then not again until 5pm with scans at 3 and 4 not registering the plate? Then they weren't there for more than 2 consecutive hours.

Will it have false negatives if as the scanners going across it misses you? (Say, someone walking and blocking the image) sure. But that's a better outcome than ticketing wrongly.

Seems feasible to me?

Re: parking mid air. Please don't start with strawmen. If the ordinance is 2 hours per day, adding per day is not a ridiculous requirement. The signage should convey the ordinances accurately.

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esushi t1_jeb13w1 wrote

There is a real chance you're the only person who does not think the 'per day' isn't the only possible implication from that sign. Otherwise, there'd have to be so many other rules about "how long can you leave until you're allowed to park again?". Sooo complicated that there is, truly and surely, no way to enforce it (or communicate it on a little sign).

The way you understand the sign without 'per day' means that it's good for someone to leave and come back again... for how long do they have to leave? How would the sign communicate that? How lucky would the person have to be that the scanner comes the exact point and time that they were gone to register they left and came back? It's so spooky and messy that there's no way that that could be the way that it works, so (nearly) everyone recognizes that must not be the way that it works.

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chrisms150 t1_jeb8u27 wrote

https://pittsburghpa.gov/dcp/faqs

Literally the city itself states

"Those without a permit may park for only a limited amount of time, which may be no more than a 2-hour period"

If they mean per day they should state per day. But they don't.

Because that's not what is intended.

The ordinance is to prevent long term parking on the street. Not limit total cumulative time you can be doing business in a zone (imagine, for example, a maid sevice doing several houses in the same parking zone)

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esushi t1_jebh6g2 wrote

So it is your genuine reading of that rule that someone can leave for 1 second and then come back because that falls within your dictionary-words-only reading of the policy? Or is there a chance that, in general, policies require the smallest amount of interpretation to see how it would make sense in the real world? Or are you just being a contrarian for fun? If not one second, how long? How can you determine that with it not being written in the policy? With the complete lack of guidance about "how long you're allowed to be away", only "per day" makes sense. There is no other way to read it.

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