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drmartykrauss t1_je4z754 wrote

not til memorial day, comrades! stay strong, hold steady!!


jeffykins t1_je63hip wrote

My half acre yard gets covered with violets and the bees are always about, I make sure to wait to start mowing. My neighbor will never understand!


ShanghaiShrek t1_je6g1v8 wrote

My back is shady and has tons of violets and clover. I can ignore it throughout a lot of the year. The front though is a shitty monoculture and I have to mow it pretty much every week in spring. I need to bring that shade to the front.


the1999person t1_je4ytre wrote

‘I’m mowing the air Rand, I’m mowing the air.’


cooleymahn t1_je5th39 wrote

Ask me if I care! Go ahead ask me. Yeah. Go ahead ask me.


pangaea1972 t1_je51i2x wrote

Please wait. Grass lawns are afwul for native plants and pollinators but if you can let it grow until June they will have a chance to get a head start. Also please try not to clean up old leaves, branches, etc until the weather warms up since there are many critters that use that shelter to overwinter and they have nowhere to go yet if displaced.


OnceBug t1_je54v2a wrote

This post is absolutely kryptonite to boomer brains lol


lydriseabove t1_je6lh4j wrote

Lawns are my favorite “brainwashed by capitalism” topic in the US. I’m so glad people are becoming more aware and are trading high maintenance, imported grasses for native ground cover.


S4ltyInt3ractions t1_je54vb3 wrote

And it is a huge waste of fossil fuels


LostOldAccountTimmay t1_je55qzm wrote

How much of the total fossil fuel consumption is represented by residential lawn care? I'd have to imagine significantly less than 1%


threwthelookinggrass t1_je59lgw wrote

Running a gas powered leaf blower for 30mins emits the same amount of pollution as driving a ford 150 raptor for 3,800 miles.


username-1787 t1_je61ot2 wrote

Electrifying lawn equipment should be priority #1 as opposed to electric cars

EV has to happen too, but if we can make a similar emissions reduction with products that are well within the budget of your average family ($50 leaf blower vs $50,000 car) and have a battery that is several hundred times smaller than your average EV that is a huge climate win


ShanghaiShrek t1_je6drhq wrote

That's what CARB is trying to do and people still complain. All of my yard power tools are electric and the reduction in noise pollution alone is worth it.


Excelius t1_je6w07r wrote

> Electrifying lawn equipment should be priority #1 as opposed to electric cars

No. That's misunderstanding the problem.

The Edmunds article is talking about pollutants like carbon monoxide and NOx and so forth. They're high because gas lawn mowers don't have the emissions control systems that cars do. Some places do encourage people not to use gas lawn equipment on air-quality alert days.

Climate change is about CO2 emissions. Emissions control systems do basically nothing to reduce the amount of CO2 emitted, it's a straight function of how much gas has been burned. The only real way to reduce CO2 emissions is to burn less fuel, and cars and trucks burn way more fuel than lawn mowers.

That said I've literally never owned a gas mower, I've been using some form of electric mower for about 15 years now.


username-1787 t1_je6y02w wrote

CO and NOx emissions both also net contribute to global warming via catalytic effects and are also worse for human health than CO2. And this doesn't even mention the host of other greenhouse gases we emit every day (methane, HFCs, etc). Climate isn't just about CO2

However I do agree that trucks burn way more fuel and produce way more CO2, but the production of electric trucks is also far more ecologically destructive than production of consumer grade electric lawn and garden equipment which is why I'd posit they're still a climate win (although it's just a reasonably informed hunch and not backed by research or anything).

And again - EV transition still needs to happen, but the ROI on smaller, cheaper sources of pollution is probably higher in many cases


Excelius t1_je6yf8p wrote

Transportation accounts for about 27% of greenhouse gas emissions.

Americans burn about 135 billion gallons of gasoline per year, and lawn equipment uses an estimated 800 million gallons. Hundreds of billions versus hundreds of millions, it's not even a close comparison.

Saying that electrification of lawn equipment is more important to combat climate change than vehicles is just flat out wrong.


username-1787 t1_je719d7 wrote

I'm not saying it's more important.

What I am saying is that lawn equipment is a low hanging fruit with a high value impact

I'm saying every home and apartment in America has the capability of charging a small leaf blower battery without landlord consent or service upgrades or waiting for public charging infrastructure investment to kick in.

I'm saying you can probably go to home depot and buy an electric weed wacker tomorrow with your weekly budget. You probably cannot go buy a new car tomorrow

I'm saying that producing a 100kwh battery, 2 tons of steel, 4 tires and some paint is unbelievably destructive to the environment.

I'm saying that for $7,500 the government could offer an ev tax credit for one car for one person or they could straight up buy 40 electric push mowers for 40 people

And I'm also saying that CO2 isn't the only emission that matters. For public health reducing the prevalence of NOx, VOCs, CO and other toxic gases emitted by two stroke engines is also essential

I'm also gonna add that biking, walking, scootering, taking a train (and probably even a diesel bus) are all still far better for the environment than driving your own electric car. That battery came from somewhere. That energy came from somewhere. We need to focus on reducing per capita energy consumption in addition to greening our energy supply

Anyway don't let perfection be the enemy of progress. We have a long way to go in the climate fight, and I just think we should maximize our financial and ecological ROI


Excelius t1_je72n4r wrote

> What I am saying is that lawn equipment is a low hanging fruit with a high value impact

That's the problem though, it's not a high impact at all. It's very low impact.

I've owned nothing but electric lawn equipment my entire adult life, but I'm not going to pretend it's more important than it actually is.


username-1787 t1_je75yeh wrote

You're not listening. Or at least you've chosen not to address my actual points

  1. Many people can't own an EV right now. Maybe they can't afford one or still have 3 years left on their current car loan or whatever. Maybe they live in an apartment complex with no way to charge their car. Maybe their job requires frequent long distance road trips through regions with poorly developed charging facilities.

However due to their lower price and the ability to charge indoors from a regular wall socket just about anyone with a lawn can probably own electric lawn equipment right now (unless they need a riding mower I guess)

  1. EV's don't spawn out of thin air free of all emissions and environmental damage. The mining industry for lithium, cobalt, copper and dozens of other rare earth minerals required to make EVs work are among the dirtiest, most ecologically destructive industries and in many casss also have terrible human rights records. And it's not just mining for battery materials - you have to ship those raw materials all around the world, you have to manufacture the steel for the frame and the rubber for the tires and every other component in the car. And then once you're using it you have to charge the car, and that energy can either come from burning something (climate change and harmful emissions), damming a river (ecological damage and habitat destruction and emissions from concrete production), splitting an atom (another questionable mining industry and questionable disposal of waste), or solar/wind (more mining of rare earth metals for solar, clearing large swaths of land for solar/wind farms etc). Lawn equipment is smaller and uses fewer materials, meaning the day 0 carbon footprint is wayyyyyy smaller than that of an electric car

And again, I understand that transportation is one of the largest source of emissions for most households (along with heating/cooling) and that EVs are still good and still necessary. But in many circumstances (but not all) the return on investment is going to pencil out well for electrifying those smaller miscellaneous uses like lawn care. And in literally all circumstances not driving at all and getting around via transit, bike or on foot is more sustainable


Excelius t1_je77tpt wrote

I'm listening, I'm saying you're wrong.

> the return on investment is going to pencil out well for electrifying those smaller miscellaneous uses like lawn care

You've said that without providing any evidence whatsoever.

Whereas I've actually provided you concrete numbers that lawn equipment is less than a fraction of a percent of gasoline usage, which itself is only a portion of transportation carbon emissions, which itself is about a quarter of greenhouse gas emissions.

You're chasing percentages with too many zeroes at the front to make a bit of difference. Climate change is not an "every little bit helps" problem, the only real solutions involving going after the big ticket items.


username-1787 t1_je7du47 wrote

Yes it's a big problem but also yes every little bit does help.

Switching to an electric car is a good thing. But for a variety of reasons, not everyone can own an electric car right now. It is still ok to reduce your climate impact elsewhere.

I'll admit I need to go touch grass (pun intended) instead of getting in dumb reddit fights so apologies for the tone. I just think we should be doing everything we to can reduce emissions as soon as possible and as efficiently as possible, and clearly gas powered lawn equipment is an easy thing to phase out


dilladog t1_je6onr3 wrote

I've struggled to reckon the ROI on continuing to use my second-hand gas mower vs buying an electric mower. When do the emissions of my existing equipment outweigh the emissions of manufacturing something new?

If you are a first-time buyer, I totally recommend electric. I borrowed my buddies to test out and it worked perfectly fine, although it was a bit over 10Ah of batteries for about 1/10 acre.


username-1787 t1_je6pv2s wrote

Agreed. It's the same argument as with phasing out gas stoves/water heaters etc. The ecological cost of a brand new one is higher than continuing to use the one you have, but new ones should all be electric (hence the ban on gas appliances in new construction in a some states/cities). I suppose this also depends on how the old equipment is up/downcycled (stripped for parts, etc)

You're probably fine to continue using the old one but if/when replacement becomes necessary electric is definitely the way to go


just_an_ordinary_guy t1_je8barc wrote

Honestly, for a 1/10 acre skip the battery and just use a cord. You'll probably need to get an expensive one for higher amp draw. For instance, I got one of those leaf blower/vacuum things because I have a below grade driveway and leaves get piled up down there. Use it a couple times a year so no leaf blower hate plz. For comparison, my lot is 7000 sqft, which is about .15 acres.

Anyhow, it draws a lot of amps (around 15 amps) and I need 100 feet to reach all of my yard with ease. So you need a cord with larger guage wires. 12 guage for around 15 amps and 10 guage for anything over that up to 20 amps (has one of the prongs sideways). Because the longer the cord, the more voltage drop which can damage the tool. Anyhow, the extension cord will usually have labeled the amp rating it's designed for. Heavy duty is usually designed for these amps.

The batteries for tools are decently expensive, and lithium ion is only good for full capacity up to maybe 500 full cycles. Corded tools are also cheaper for a comparable battery powered tool. And fewer rare earth metals for environmental responsibility if that's your angle.


dilladog t1_je9quxw wrote

I was gifted a 40V Ryobi string trimmer and already have two batteries, but good input.

Our property is also challenging with slopes and retaining walls that would make a cord a bit of a headache. Working to slowly lessen the overall area of turf though.


just_an_ordinary_guy t1_jeatvmg wrote

I had one of those Ryobi string trimmers and I had to use it pretty frequently. The motor only lasted a year for me, hopefully the made them better in the time since. But yeah, one you have is better than one you have to buy. I'm working on shrinking the amount of lawn I have to maintain too.


adamcp90 t1_je5waej wrote

Consumption and emission are not the same thing.


transexodus t1_je56bn9 wrote

Gas powered lawn equipment has no emissions restrictions, so actually a lot more than you'd think


LostOldAccountTimmay t1_je5f83f wrote

The point of emissions and impact on the environment is certainly the most important aspect of the discussion. But the call out was waste, and the amount of consumption vs total, especially for energy production has to be small.

I wasn't really arguing for lawns or fossil fuel, moreso looking for perspective on the actual consumption amounts because I was curious


realtabeag t1_je5rgbf wrote

You are correct, everyone replying to you is missing what the post you commented on actually said.

Yes lawn equipment has an outsized pollution footprint since those engines don't run clean but they do not have a huge actual fuel consumption footprint.


Grundlage t1_je57y3l wrote

Gas-powered lawn and garden equipment is responsible for 24-45% of non-road carbon emissions, about half of other forms of air pollution, and 4% of total C02 emissions. Gas-powered mowers and leaf blowers are among the least energy efficient, most polluting combustion engines in existence. Operating a lawnmower for an hour produces the same amount of emissions as driving a typical car for 500 miles.

That's not taking into account the harmful effects of monoculture grass lawns on native species and pollinators anyway. Lawns are truly one of our dumbest hobbies.


LostOldAccountTimmay t1_je59p1i wrote

I hate my lawn and I wish it was clover. Or gravel


rocketcrotch t1_je752y1 wrote

Lay a tarp over it on a hot day, then rake it out and seed with clover. If that's what you really want, it's honestly not too difficult to accomplish


LostOldAccountTimmay t1_je7v5k7 wrote

It's 3/4 acre, so it would take a lot of iteration, but I wouldn't have expected it to be that easy.


rocketcrotch t1_je85q74 wrote

An electric dethatcher might make it a bit easier; I can understand the reluctance to tackle that large of an area. The non-difficulty I was referring to was the game plan, certainly not the physical labor of the task


Excelius t1_je6xh09 wrote

> Gas-powered lawn and garden equipment is responsible for 24-45% of non-road carbon emissions

Correction: Your link says that gas-powered lawn and garden equipment is responsible for 24-45% of non-road gasoline emissions. Not non-road carbon emissions.

There are only so many things that use gasoline besides cars, and of those things lawn equipment is the largest consuming category.

> Operating a lawnmower for an hour produces the same amount of emissions as driving a typical car for 500 miles.

Health impacting pollutants like VOCs, yes. Climate change causing greenhouse emissions, not even close.

The average vehicle on American roads gets about 25mpg, so that 500 mile trip is burning about 20 gallons of gasoline.

I've always owned electric lawn equipment so I'm honestly not sure what's typical, but I'd guess that most people aren't burning 20 gallons in their lawn mower in an entire year.


dilladog t1_je6o79u wrote

For us, with the mild winter and occasional 50F+ days in the last two months, our lawn was over 8" in areas. Mowing now should help with dandelion and clover competition.

Also, so many hidden dog poops.


realtabeag t1_je5rjor wrote

How are grass lawns bad for native plants?


livefast_dieawesome t1_je8cvcx wrote

Most grass isn’t actually native to the region and takes up the space native plants used to inhabit

Edit: downvote me all you like but the above statement is simply a matter of fact


livefast_dieawesome t1_je8d7sd wrote

I am gradually replacing most of my grass with native pollinators, year by year. It will improve over time.

But I had to mow yesterday because I have a tiny dog with an acorn brain who won’t go into the yard to poop if the grass touches his belly.

He is descended from wolves and we ruined his bloodline.


RemotePersimmon678 t1_je77k5w wrote

I agree, but tell this to the communities like mine that warn people for long grass. 🙄


lod254 t1_je7fwkd wrote

I wish you were my neighbor. My wife complains because the neighbors complain.

At least my lawn isn't homogenous.


rob61091 t1_je7rlym wrote

Keeping your grass super long is basically an invitation for snakes and ticks which isn't great if you have a dog.


just_an_ordinary_guy t1_je8c10r wrote

It's not like it's going to be a meadow by memorial day. It probably won't even violate city code. I typically only mow once every 3 weeks and it's never higher than maybe 4 or 5 inches. Depends on the grass type, shade vs light, the amount of rain, etc. Some places like Mt Lebanon are stricter than the city. But it's doable and not a snake and tick haven by that point.


PittFall09 t1_je4x94m wrote

We play a weird game of chicken in my neighborhood to see who caves first and gets the mower out. My hunch April 8.


WhenRobLoweRobsLowes t1_je53aef wrote

I'm avoiding it as long as I can, because once we start, we don't stop until... what? October, now?


kirbypuckett t1_je51vur wrote

I had to give mine a little trim a few weeks ago because my corgi is a snob and wouldn't go in the yard if the grass was too high.


AmishButcher t1_je4vbl2 wrote

This past weekend


philpalmer2 t1_je50bw3 wrote

I saw a guy out on his riding mower cutting grass this past Saturday.

Seemed a bit early for me but maybe he just had to get out of the house!


dilladog t1_je6p21c wrote

Turf grass grows best between ~60-80F. We've had a mild winter and multiple days in that range. It's also species-dependent. Our shitty lawn / dog bathroom has grass that grows 1" in a few weeks and others in a few days.


ScareJessica2Death t1_je5h28o wrote

Fuck Cutting Grass.

One of the biggest wastes of our time and money in this country. Plus, gas-powered mowers are air-polluters.

Fuck companies like Scotts and TruGreen that try to make you believe having a well-manicured lawn is important.


ventorun t1_je5kz3d wrote

I water my lawn with the tears of people like you.


burritoace t1_je5r7j1 wrote

Just more of your usual reactionary outrage


ventorun t1_je5x13s wrote

Yeah, “fuck cutting grass” followed by me making a sarcastic remark is totally me being outraged.


ScareJessica2Death t1_je5p6z2 wrote

Ha ha.

Imma' come piss on your lawn, and then you won't have to worry about watering or cutting it.


DIY_Creative t1_je5g5e5 wrote

Lots of folks, including my neighbor, did this past weekend! I've put down my first fert and this weekend will dethatch where needed and do some general yard clean-up, so I'm eyeing next weekend possibly.


funkyb t1_je50efu wrote

Whenever Doug the grass guy shows up. I love Doug.


CARLEtheCamry t1_je6cyzy wrote

Of all the luxuries I am fortunate to be able to afford, my lawn guy is #1. $35 a cut, never have to worry about if it's going to rain over the weekend so I have to do it after work on Thursday, no lawnmower purchase or maintenance, no getting covered in all the nubbins and sweaty.

I tip the shit out of them first and last cut.


jralll234 t1_je6alna wrote

I refuse to mow in the month of March.


rob61091 t1_je7r87j wrote

There's a weird dichotomy of posts in here lol. Who knew cutting your lawn was bad.


just_an_ordinary_guy t1_je8c9dd wrote

It's bad for my free time, so I don't do it until I have to, the environmental stuff aside.


arguchik t1_je504ky wrote

If it were up to me, I'd do it now, but it's not up to me. My landlord will probably do it when the grass is approximately a foot tall.


mdenovich t1_je51ip4 wrote

Over a month ago... my lawn is creeping bentgrass and it looks best when maintained very short. I did a quick pass to knock down the high (>2") stuff.


amsplur t1_je58jm0 wrote

Trying to wait it out as long as possible, but might need to do a little trimming. We have the WORST “grass.” But I want to give the little violets a chance to bloom, and pollinators a chance to do their thing.


Bradbitzer t1_je5hkrh wrote

When all the bulbs I have in my yard die back


Thingaling t1_je6fxj9 wrote

A few of the neighbors have already done theirs at least once. Mine is already shaggy looking. I was thinking I have maybe a week tops before needing to do it.


AMcMahon1 t1_je4v8wd wrote

Looking at the 10 day on i see april 3rd as the first grass cut


PGHxplant t1_je4ycbt wrote

About two weeks after I rip out all of this year's quickweed which returns without fail right about now.


Pensfan66877129 t1_je51hw1 wrote

Two of my neighbors cut their grass over the past weekend...its already started.


NotFrancis t1_je587ou wrote

My neighbor did his this past Sunday on his riding mower. He's retired and probably did it mostly to clean up the leaves and crap.


SDMF8766 t1_je5ytdn wrote

Whenever it needs it. Maybe in a week or 2.


Big_League227 t1_je61ch2 wrote

My neighbor has already mowed... twice now. But he is crazy like that. I have a small patch in my backboard, that if I waited until Memorial Day, would be over 2 feet tall. Not sure Memorial Day is a realistic goal.


Wide-Concert-7820 t1_je61otk wrote

Dunno. But my clover/dandelion mix usually is mid Aplril.


Cryptic_Skies t1_je64cl4 wrote

my idiot neighbor mows twice a month, so long as there is no snow covering the grass.


SubsurferOne t1_je695um wrote

until it looks to be growing too tall. Just like usual


hartguitars t1_je69bnx wrote

My neighbor had a service out yesterday


motociclista t1_je69owd wrote

My dad used to say “If you mow before May, you’ll mow everyday.” He hated lawn maintenance and I’m 99% sure that was just his excuse to procrastinate. I also hate lawn maintenance and still use that saying. But it still never holds true.


YinzerChick70 t1_je7662k wrote

I just passed your dad's saying to my husband. He didn't make it to May last year, he's really trying to hold out this year.


Healthy_Artichoke_97 t1_je6audb wrote

I had to cut mine yesterday already. And randy to frig off and his dirty burgers suck


Aldrige_Lazuras t1_je6fboq wrote

Just bought my first house after renting for over a decade, got a lawnmower and weed waxier and now I’m waiting for my neighbors to do it first so I’m not THAT guy lol good luck yinzers


OrangeSundays19 t1_je6ouq2 wrote

Well, whenever my neighbor is gonna do it, it'll be on my day off. And way too early.


mcvoid1 t1_je6p9zs wrote

I live in a neighborhood with a bunch of retired people obsessed with yard and garden maintenance, all day, every day, the entire summer. At least 3 of my neighbors already mowed their lawns this past Saturday. I'm holding out until there's something substantial to mow.


poodog13 t1_je6pk0j wrote

Planning on doing beginning of season mower maintenance this weekend. 50/50 whether I’ll squeeze in a quick mow or save it for next week. Have a few spots that are starting to get overgrown.


goldenalgae t1_je6ryq2 wrote

My next door neighbor mowed today. Always the first one, he can never just be chill. And he’s the oldest guy in the neighborhood, over 80 years old.


WikusVanDerMerwe t1_je6v5lm wrote

I don’t think like a normal grass cutting citizen because the only thing I have to deal with is knotweed. :(


Miss_Ann_Thrope55 t1_je6veuw wrote

Mine is starting to look rough but I want to delay as much as possible because f**k grass cutting.

I’m guessing next week or so though. ☹️


overnyte23 t1_je71ay9 wrote

My mom is cutting hers tomorrow


YinzerChick70 t1_je75u6g wrote

My husband is trying to hold out until May. Stay strong, everyone!


stinky143 t1_je75xmq wrote

Fuck Randy cut it tomorrow


Flippendo66 t1_je76xge wrote

Ummmmm…yeah…cut it last weekend…so…yeah 🤓


drewbaccaAWD t1_je7atig wrote

Me? When it looks more like a shag carpet than a lawn... Junish? lol I want to live near a lawn, not a golf course.


hineybush t1_je7b1ko wrote

probs this weekend. three of my four neighbors have mowed already. got the mower out and prepped to go. I want to mow at least once before putting down my crab/goosegrass pre/post emergent stuff. plan is to add in microclover seed (5% of total seed per weight when overseeding!) to add some nitrogen and natural weed cover to the yard.


TacoBean19 t1_je7idb1 wrote

I’m gonna need a 5 inch lawn mower to mow my plants in a windowsill pot thing lol


fryerandice t1_je7uv3i wrote

I'm seeding and my yard is very soft and wet, so no mowing yet, plus the downed tree is a big deterrent.


therealpigman t1_je7xyux wrote

My apartment started doing it this morning


billfriedman9987 t1_je8udfh wrote

I think we have some time.. the crab grass is coming up now and the good stuff is still low. I'm guessing sometime in late April I'll fire er up and mow, but we have time.


Vantlefun t1_je9azma wrote

I was planning on doing mine today..


MWPerspective t1_je9h92o wrote

This past sunday for me.

"Why do drugs when you can mow a lawn" - Hank Hill


Gnarlsaurus_Sketch t1_je5h84y wrote

The racket and emissions caused by gas powered lawn equipment is an absolute nuisance. Despite only having a few houses on my street, and the properties being very spread out, the noise is disruptive and annoying. I feel for people who live in denser areas, the noise there must be far worse.

It wouldn't be fair to implement in all areas, but I'd support a gas lawn equipment ban in my municipality. Again, this isn't true in all areas around the county, but people in this municipality can afford electric equipment (or to pay landscapers more for acquiring electric equipment), and it would improve quality of life. If some people in this municipality can't afford it, I'd be more than willing to subsidize their shit. I frequently spend time in areas elsewhere in the US with such a ban, and the difference is night and day. So much more peaceful and quiet, not to mention the lack of nasty emissions!


ShanghaiShrek t1_je6eynv wrote

Electric riding mowers are still really expensive, though having that much lawn to mow is already expensive whether they realize it or not. So I can see what you mean there.

But replacing a walk-behind with electric isn't too hard to do. If your yard is small enough you can easily get by with a very cheap, corded mower.

For anyone on the fence, though, my battery mower is a beast and is much easier to use than gas. And there's even less maintenance than a gas mower, which is already low.


meresithea t1_je725q2 wrote

I love my electric mower! I’ve had a 60v Black and Decker for 6 years. It quieter and lighter than a gas mower (useful because my yard is hilly) and is super low maintenance. I just need to sharpen the blade.

B&D doesn’t make the batteries for this mower anymore , so I’ll probably have to replace the whole thing once these batteries die. Lack of support after just a couple of years on being able to get new batteries and battery chargers is a definite con for electric lawn equipment, and may make them more wasteful in some ways than gas equipment. My yard isn’t huge, but the grass is thick and grows quickly. I need 2-3 batteries to cut the back and front (and sometimes that isn’t enough and I have to wait for batteries to recharge). I believe the newer models have more efficient batteries.


hineybush t1_je7bbbq wrote

the 60v toro line is great. I have the mower, leaf blower and snow blower and all three perform extremely well.


meresithea t1_je87jdv wrote

Good to know! I was vaguely looking at that and the eGo mower (while hoping this mower will last another season). The eGo is self propelled, which I don’t want? I don’t want to get dragged down the hill.


hineybush t1_je8ek9c wrote

the toro has self propelling too, but it's based on how much force you push into the handle with. so if you're going downhill and pulling back on it, it won't engage the diff. I have the aluminum deck one (the deck is black instead of the steel ones which are red) and the weight/corrosion resistance are nice features.


Gnarlsaurus_Sketch t1_je57xkb wrote

It always amazes me how many people enjoy mowing and finicking with grass. I prefer to spend my time outdoors doing things other than lawn maintenance. Good landscapers are worth their weight in gold. You do you though!

That said, thank y'all lawn enthusiasts for your hard work keeping the golf courses in good shape! My slightly above average short game appreciates (and needs) you!


burritoace t1_je5rb2d wrote

Very funny to look down your nose at people who mow their lawn while also playing golf


Gnarlsaurus_Sketch t1_je5umw8 wrote

Most lawns aren't nearly nice enough to comfortably and consistently hit a perfectly struck flop shot from. If it doesn't look like the fairways at Oakmont, I don't want it.