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InitiativeSerious798 t1_je1tq9v wrote

Same here. It just sucks that the “scene” enables this kind of shithead behavior and it lead to this. Just absolutely horrible

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AdvicePuzzleheaded95 t1_je36skl wrote

How does the scene enable this? Not doubting you, maybe I just don’t have the facts. Was the handgun his?

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InitiativeSerious798 t1_je4nlru wrote

Fair question. He’s a known abusive asshole, which is now being called out publicly but really wasn’t before this happened. See Akay’s comment a little below mine, it’s 100% spot on. But basically by people playing in bands with him, booking those bands, and including him with the rest of the cool kids for various things, sent a message that how he was behaving was fine. I have no idea who he got the gun from, and I truly hope that it wasn’t given to him willingly. There are a lot of apologists in the scene for various bad behaviors and I don’t think they appreciate the consequences it can have.

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akaynaveed t1_je6gekc wrote

Exactly, punks suppose to be different than the rest of the world. Seems like punk is just like the rest of the world. Its a party, and it lets abusers run rampant.

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WafflePilot1125 t1_je7svm8 wrote

There IS a lot of good in punk. But no matter how small you break down society, if it can be described as a community, you’re gonna have elements that don’t actually give a damn about…anything but themselves. Or rather their own vision of themselves. It seems that’s just part of humanity, maybe. You will always have infiltrators.

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Budget-Plankton-7096 t1_je6bmwb wrote

Wait... what bands?

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WafflePilot1125 t1_je7si7j wrote

I’m not gonna promote his bands, especially here. However, punk stuff. “Noisecore” or wtfe. I listen to punk, I’ve described myself as a punk. But I couldn’t really listen to the stuff he put out. I was really more into stuff like Ska and Folk punk, anyway. But it really was just…noise. Or maybe I’m just a lot older than my 33 years. 😅

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misathemeb t1_jebw055 wrote

Not sure why you got downvoted, but I also agree and could have posted at least 3 bands here. If OP wants to know bad enough, it’s a pretty lazy Google.

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WafflePilot1125 t1_jec7tud wrote

Thanks, but fwiw, I don’t see any downvotes in my notifications or here. Although I’m very new to Reddit still so I could be missing something. It is a very lazy google, though. Regardless, this is certainly not the thread to be making those bands more infamous than they already will be. There is a certain…sector of punk that takes this sort of nihilistic shitbag and idolizes the fuck out of them. That’s how we got here in the first place. Through some almost ritualistic idolization of people like GG Allin.

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