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bill_pgh t1_jczwmts wrote

Abolish the death penalty.

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BurghPuppies t1_jd0vcfi wrote

Seems unlikely they’ll actually pursue the death penalty, they know that makes convictions more complicated. Most likely using the threat of it for a plea to life instead.

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uglybushes t1_jd0abil wrote

I like dbl down and more death penalties and completing them under a 2 year period

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IamChantus t1_jd1v4b8 wrote

Alright douchebag, I'll engage.

Why do you feel it's ok to have state sanctioned executions of innocents in a timely fashion just to make sure the guilty are killed?

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his_purple_majesty t1_jd1xxlp wrote

> Alright douchebag

I bet they totally want to have a reasonable discussion with you now.

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IamChantus t1_jd24ex1 wrote

Not like they were trying to have one in the first place.

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his_purple_majesty t1_jd24hz5 wrote

Why? Because they expressed an opinion you don't agree with?

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Avocado_Amnesia t1_jd2k2zc wrote

When their opinion is "quickly murder our incarcerated" I think it's okay to treat them as at least somewhat unreasonable.

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his_purple_majesty t1_jd4llvt wrote

Some people actually have that opinion. Maybe you could change their mind if you approached them in some other way than "alright douchebag."

I'm against the death penalty, even if we could be 100% certain that person were guilty.

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IamChantus t1_jd3fs8c wrote

For the most part it seems, folk that post edge lord stuff seem to just want to stir the pot, not actually engage in a reasonable discussion.

While I could be wrong with this user, odds are I am not.

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uglybushes t1_jd27u4j wrote

How many people are proven innocent after years of appeals?

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IamChantus t1_jd3ajql wrote

The overall success rate of appeals is between 7%-20% depending on the year. Proven innocent is lower I'm sure, but not zero.

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Onlyroad4adrifter t1_jd01w3x wrote

With the exception of repeat pedophiles.

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therealpigman t1_jd05fjn wrote

No exceptions. Life in prison can be worse than death anyway, and there’s a chance the person can actually repent and become a better person

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headpsu t1_jd0rmno wrote

The problem with the death penalty isn’t that convicted criminals won’t have the chance to repent and better themselves.

The real horror of the death penalty is that innocent people get convicted of crimes they didn’t commit. Death is absolute. You can’t commute a sentence and award damages to a wrongfully convicted person if you kill them.

The system is flawed, it’s is created and run by humans who are flawed, and we know some unacceptable amount of innocent people are in prison. Some of those people are on death row.

I would rather have all of the atrocious criminals, spend life in prison, than have one innocent person committed to death. that innocent person could be your coworker, or childhood friend, or sibling, or you…. or your child.

Until our criminal justice system can operate at 100% effectiveness, the permanency of a death sentence is unacceptable.

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where_is_the_key t1_jd0ojfw wrote

That’s quite the hope in our prison system lmao Maybe if we focused on prevention & rehabilitation instead of punishment we would get more people that become better. But a life prison sentence isn’t gonna do that either Bc it’s still more of a punishment than a rehabilitation lol

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Onlyroad4adrifter t1_jd1kebj wrote

There is no reforming a child predator. They are the worst kind of human possible.

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IamChantus t1_jd1v6me wrote

Yeah, repent is totally the wrong word for an area with Zubik as the Bishop.

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