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AndrewCpgh1 t1_ituiwam wrote

Just a point of order, the “Highland Park Bridge Exit Lane” doesn’t become exit only until about 1/10 of a mile before the exit. You should use both lanes until the merge point.

A large portion of the traffic is caused by people who 1) get into the long line of cars continuing on 28 well before the merge point, and 2) cars in that line that refuse to let people in the other lane merge.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_itujj94 wrote

>A large portion of the traffic is caused by people who 1) get into the long line of cars continuing on 28 well before the merge point, and 2) cars in that line that refuse to let people in the other lane merge.

And then you have the third type of people - those in the long line who will actually get out (usually partially, just enough to block the short lane while staying in their place in the long lane) and cut you off when you're trying to get to the merge point just to stop you from "cutting in line."

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chrisms150 t1_itut895 wrote

Or better yet. You actually take that exit.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_itxrw8o wrote

I usually do because it ends up being far quicker to hop over the hill to get to McKnight if that is where I am going on a day off. But if I'm not going to McKnight and instead am going to the city or someplace else in that direction, I'm going to do the zipper method that PENNDot recommends (and it seems that no one acknowledges).

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chrisms150 t1_ity2tkk wrote

Oh, i meant they stop you from "cutting" but in reality you are taking that exit

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IrrumaboMalum t1_ity3q3o wrote

Like I said - sometimes I am, sometimes I'm not. My particular experience with people trying to block me like I mentioned wasn't on 28 though - it was at the PA/WV border where they was some construction going on and I was coming back from Cabelas.

Did a little light off roading in my rental Camry to get around the shits from the long lane who were trying to prevent me from zipper merging. Actually had two people do it that day to me.

Apparently Camrys are ORVs now.

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die-jarjar-die t1_itv10sh wrote

It's not a merge, though. Merging is when two lanes merge to one. It's a lane meant to take the bridge. You know it's not just a fast lane to get ahead of the thoughtful people that know ahead of time and have been patiently waiting in the right lane.

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AndrewCpgh1 t1_itv4tz8 wrote

But my point is those “thoughtful” people waiting in line are actually backing up traffic and causing congestion. If you use both lanes until the exit point traffic moves faster.

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guino27 t1_itvgv5u wrote

How so? If everyone merges early, then the through lane can maintain speed. If everyone merges at the last point, it will be continuous stopped traffic, with shorter lines.

I'm an engineer and this logic never made sense to me unless the backed up traffic interfered with other junctions.

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AndrewCpgh1 t1_itvq1hb wrote

Why do you choose to prioritize the cars going over the highland park bridge over the cars continuing on 28. They should share the construction backlog evenly. The right lane is not a through lane to the bridge. It is part of a 2 lane infrastructure system that serves both directions.

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LisicaUCarapama t1_itv9dy7 wrote

The problem with this is that traffic to the Highland Park exit would get blocked by people going past the exit. Since the left lane is often backed up half a mile, they should move the exit-only signage to be further in front of the exit.

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