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DarthNihilus2 t1_iugav0b wrote
Cracked Egg didn’t survive it’s bullshit lmao. My bankruptcy professor was the judge presiding over their case.
InevitablePersimmon6 t1_iugj3uq wrote
Hahaha! Good. I just remember Wendy Bell being there all the time and I couldn’t understand the hype. Al’s Cafe is unfortunately still open and always full.
Difficult-Ad-52 t1_iugjdi3 wrote
Live right by there. For the life of me, cannot understand how they are still in business. Place is falling apart and the food is just blah.
Repo_co t1_iug2gas wrote
We live pretty close to Al's and it's on our permanent no-go list. We went in there one night and they were hosting a fundraiser for an outlaw biker gang. One of the women walking around had a denim jacket on with a patch on the back that said "Property of [Biker's Name]." But sure, blue lives matter and all of that, right?
I have a problem with throwing blind support behind cops, but clearly showing you don't respect the law. To me, that says you just want protection to do whatever the fuck it is you're gonna do. Trolley Stop has the better hoagie anyway.
poopsonthepotty t1_iugbtvf wrote
I dont fuck with Al's anymore either after 2020 bullshit. I also dont mess with Jim & LouLou's after their Tmurp signs went up.
InevitablePersimmon6 t1_iugjo7t wrote
I thought Jim & Lou Lou’s got sold to different people? Isn’t it Mom & Pop’s Country Kitchen now or something like that?
SouthHill1968 t1_iuh1wlu wrote
Tmurp 😆😆
PhunkyPterodactyl t1_iuggclq wrote
Oh yikes… I moved to Bethel not too long ago and I’ve been looking for some good local diners. I’ll make sure to avoid them.
Thezedword4 t1_iugnpkl wrote
When my partner and I moved to baldwin, I asked for restaurant recommendations in the south hills on here and got a lot of good ones. We've been working through them.
InevitablePersimmon6 t1_iugjgld wrote
We drive past it all the time and I can never believe how busy they are. It’s crazy to me. I remember him holding a rally protesting the COVID shutdowns and still serving food and alcohol and I couldn’t believe they didn’t lose their liquor license and get shut down. COVID brought out all the idiots.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iuhlr4w wrote
>"Property of [Biker's Name]." But sure, blue lives matter and all of that, right?
Tangentially related, US politics aren't actually divided into two neat sides. We say the American Left and the American Right, but there are a lot of differences of opinion within that.
Even within subdivisions it's split. The Christian Right makes up a portion of the American Right, but even within them they don't all agree. Some are staunchly against gay marriage, others allow them in their churches. Presbyterians and Catholics are often very different on their political and religious views, but they are both generally of the Christian Right.
Point is, not every person on the right believes "blue lives matter" because the American Right isn't just one opinion shared.
die-jarjar-die t1_iug44ke wrote
I went to the Crack'd Egg last spring on a Saturday not realizing it was a political clown show. They were hosting an event for Rick Saccone while we were there.
LoveMyFuckingLife t1_iug5215 wrote
Eww.. 🤮
InevitablePersimmon6 t1_iugjhv9 wrote
Oh ugh 🤮🤮 that would have immediately made me lose my appetite.
DisFigment t1_iuguzub wrote
I always got a laugh out of Saccone’s faux “Built Ford Tough” style ad campaigns even though he looked like a doughy boomer who got all clothes at Sears and probably collects Hot Wheels as the height of his excitement.
500percentDone t1_iuguzns wrote
Pasta Too was one of the businesses that joined in with Al’s Cafe 😩
driving_85 t1_iuh3w7j wrote
I did not know this. 😭
InevitablePersimmon6 t1_iuhxp02 wrote
I’ve never eaten there (which I’m sure is rare for a south hills raised person), but now I definitely know not to!
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Reasonable_Dot_661 t1_iug6tjc wrote
Thanks! Now I'll give them money!
tesla3by3 t1_iuf0cne wrote
I’ve yet to see a single business with any political signs. It just seems doing that would alienate 33% of customers.
LockedOutOfElfland OP t1_iuf0s55 wrote
I actively chose not to walk into a bar in my neighborhood when I saw they had a Mike Doyle (the one with an R after his name) sign prominently facing outward from the window by the main entry.
I was like, "this place is conveniently close by, let's get a - NOPE."
ricksebak t1_iuf57ah wrote
> a Mike Doyle (the one with an R after his name) sign
Silky’s in Bloomfield? They have one.
LockedOutOfElfland OP t1_iufaboc wrote
Yes, it greatly lowered my opinion of that establishment
ricksebak t1_iufc2st wrote
Fake Mike Doyle was in the neighborhood for the Columbus Day parade, because if there’s one thing Bloomfielders love, it’s shutting down our entire neighborhood for the enjoyment of some dickhead who lives in the suburbs. He might’ve dropped off the sign himself.
rambored89 t1_iufp6s6 wrote
They also let a bunch of nazis hang out there and hand out propaganda to random bypassers that one time
LockedOutOfElfland OP t1_iufprdc wrote
Oof, that's even more gross and uncool.
It had a concept I wanted to like from the few times I popped in, but what I'm hearing about it (along with the aforementioned political endorsement) isn't a great look.
skratchx t1_iugkfuf wrote
Oof that was a favorite spot for me but I'm not surprised.
tesla3by3 t1_iuf16k1 wrote
I’m assuming it was the fake mike Doyle. I’m in East end of pgh.have not seen any signs for specific candidates
No_Purpose4705 t1_iufszen wrote
Lol, why are people like this? You can’t just agree to disagree? No one completely agrees with all a candidates positions … and then to make a judgement to not interact at all is baffling. I’m sure you’d agree on more than you would disagree with the business owner, regardless of political affiliation...
LockedOutOfElfland OP t1_iuft9i3 wrote
A business's ownership proudly flaunting that they're giving money and votes to candidates who would be happy if over half my friend group died in childbirth says a lot about them.
No_Purpose4705 t1_iuhssdl wrote
Just because you display a sign doesn’t mean you agree with all viewpoints - have a talk with the person. I’m pro-choice but have voted for republicans on many occasions. It’s just sometimes there are more issues I align with on a particular candidate … just in this little exchange I understand why you vote democrat and am okay with it. Right to choose is your most important issue.
WholeTit t1_iufx433 wrote
go outside and touch grass.
LockedOutOfElfland OP t1_iufywjf wrote
Grass? I don't like smoking the stuff much, but I appreciate the advice!
tesla3by3 t1_iugkf9a wrote
We can agree to disagree on certain issues. Other issues are non starters. For me, if you’re an election denier, you won’t get my vote even if we agree on every other issue.
chiphook57 t1_iugkjzj wrote
Welcome to the pittsburgh sub. Hive mind only.
DoubleDumpsterFire t1_iug7vc5 wrote
I'm not going to lie, I'm avoiding any place that has political signs in the windows regardless of who it is. I just want a sandwich I don't care who you vote for.
Thezedword4 t1_iugoocr wrote
It's a lot harder to do when your well being and rights are on the line if certain people are elected.
giobroni t1_iuhcsj6 wrote
Yes
No_Purpose4705 t1_iuhtfo7 wrote
Can agree with that.
sandherr412 t1_iughre6 wrote
if a local business makes an amazing product and the owner doesn't see the world the way I think they should, it wouldn't stop me from buying their product. People are allowed to think differently. but with that said, hanging political signs up period is just a weird thing. Hang up a Pens sign
DisFigment t1_iugv63o wrote
The Pens would do well in Harrisburg. They’ve done nothing for the Lower Hill in 12 years as practice.
rae1104 t1_iugi27n wrote
My neighbor use to have 3 trump flags and his business truck was right next them. It was so tasteless
Agreeable_Leopard_24 t1_iugp6km wrote
Who cares
alwaysboopthesnoot t1_iuhdnov wrote
People who are impacted by that politician’s hatred and stated agenda. They care. They’re free to choose not to spend their money and time supporting the businesses who are actively working against them and the institutions they support, and they don’t have to give the people who may want to hurt or harm them any more validation or power than they already may have.
The business is free to put the signs up. I am free to not associate with them or to give my money to them. Others can choose to do the same. Or not.
audreyflourishes t1_iuhjcd7 wrote
My business increased significantly when I started using my platform to share what is important to me and my staff.
Buy from the people who align with your ideal vision for our future. 💗
cdelaney1982 t1_iug6hnp wrote
Kinda makes a fella wonder how many of the same people that are saying they don't let politics decide what businesses they patronize supported the baker that didn't want to make a cake for a gay couple a few years ago specifically because they were gay. 🤔
ChillEmu137 t1_iugicgy wrote
You understand there’s a significant and important difference between a business denying a customer and a customer boycotting a business, yes? No one should have to give money to someone that they don’t agree with, but if I want to purchase something, I expect to not be rejected due to a life choice. (I’d still sell products to someone voting red, I just wouldn’t support a business willfully supporting candidates who want authoritarianism and misinformation to be prevalent.)
cdelaney1982 t1_iugj04b wrote
Yes. I do understand. I'm saying the same people that are saying don't be hateful are SUPER hateful themselves. Their politics usually indicate what they're hateful towards. I hope that clarifies (non snarkily). I support good souls and judge only assholes.
ChillEmu137 t1_iugjsdb wrote
Ah, I misunderstood your comment, yes I entirely agree!
cdelaney1982 t1_iugjv62 wrote
Sometimes my brain doesn't word things correctly either so no worries.
odog9797 t1_iugs4km wrote
Yep, dem or republican sign and I’m not going in. Anyone that committed to a crazy politician isn’t worth spending my money on
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iSoReddit t1_iuh9exw wrote
Why would I support any business that supports politicians who want to oppress us?
iwifia t1_iugauqz wrote
Look it's a free country, people can vote for who they want. That doesn't mean the people working there share the same views. I have no love for Oz but I'll shop somewhere that supports him because the employees may not like him but the owner does.
[deleted] t1_iugoilj wrote
Well most of us wont.
If they want to hang a trump sign up that excludes half their customers
then thats their own dumb fault, lmfao. I wont give them a dollar or
forget. Ill prob give their competitors my money. Its called the free
market.
The_Year_of_Glad t1_iuh7k3s wrote
> Look it's a free country, people can vote for who they want.
By the same token, people are also allowed to shop where they want. So if they don’t want to patronize a business with an Oz sign or a Mastriano sign or whatever, that’s their right.
iwifia t1_iuhqy0u wrote
It is. I'm only saying that you shouldn't punish the workers for the choices of the owner. If you don't shop there it's totally your choice, just don't lump everyone there into one group.
Cl1mh4224rd t1_iugtx22 wrote
>That doesn't mean the people working there share the same views. I have no love for Oz but I'll shop somewhere that supports him because the employees may not like him but the owner does.
The employees aren't slaves. I get that not everyone has ample employment opportunities. But when the owner is making risky decisions, it's not the potential customer that's to blame for the consequences.
If the owner cares more about swinging their political dick around than they care about their employees, those employees were already screwed.
iwifia t1_iuhr3qi wrote
Not wrong. Chances are the job is hell for them. Could be someone's 2nd or 3rd job to make ends meet though as well.
pandaloafers t1_iug9url wrote
So because they express who they support running for office, you don't go there even if you previously enjoyed the services they offer? What is your logic behind this, and if they don't have signs do you ask before purchasing anything?
[deleted] t1_iugo5zn wrote
If they want to hang a trump sign up that excludes half their customers then thats their own dumb fault, lmfao. I wont give them a dollar or forget. Ill prob give their competitors my money. Its called the free market.
The_Year_of_Glad t1_iuh7xh5 wrote
> What is your logic behind this
I don’t enjoy spending time with assholes. It’s no different than if I found out that the owner beat his wife or jerked it to pictures of little kids.
I’m not hugely proactive about learning about people’s views, but if they go out of their way to tell or show me that they’re an asshole, I’m going to believe them.
Gill03 t1_iug8uz3 wrote
You are all insane.
sandherr412 t1_iughypk wrote
reddit is full of losers
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LL_is_a_Cool_J t1_iuget8t wrote
All you surely supported the boycott of the NFL over the Krappernick fiascio right?
I see rights being mentioned. Shapiro desires to remove the right to bear arms and Mastriano desires to remove the right of women to choose.
Fetterman thinks you should have your right to defend yourself if you choose restricted and ultimately removed and Oz thinks your mayor should have a say in your choice of having an abortion.
So the only choice is obviously to vote for a third party candidate this time right?
The only people on the ballot for Senate and Governor that believe that the government should keep their grubby paws out of your body, bedrooms and homes are:
Matt Hackenburg for Gov.
Erik Gerhardt for US Senate
You're all welcome, don't be voting for any candidate that wants to restrict/remove any rights.
InevitablePersimmon6 t1_iugmacb wrote
But why are we comparing someone owning a gun (which isn’t even necessary) to a woman not being able to end a pregnancy that would kill her? It drives me insane that gun rights are even a topic when there are so many actual important things like healthcare, education, homelessness, etc. No one NEEDS to own a deadly weapon. They do, however, need to be able to take care of themselves, feed themselves, and have somewhere safe and warm to live.
LL_is_a_Cool_J t1_iugowxf wrote
Rights are rights.
But the left and right only gives a shit about the ones they know will get them votes.
You are a poster child for this.
You are a sucker, how does it feel to be so easily turned against your fellow citizens?
driving_85 t1_iuh41ww wrote
Can you please show me how a) the governor of PA can abolish the second amendment and b) where Josh Shapiro has indicated that is his plan?
LL_is_a_Cool_J t1_iuit4p1 wrote
By using PICS for one. By using the "Instant"check system to put people into "research" and leaving them there in limbo. This is effectively a ban.
As governor if he has a friendly Atty General he can press the Atty Gen to institute further restrictions on firearm parts and such, doing an endrun around the legislature.
I doubt you are being sincere in your question so I'll leave it at this. If you really want to see his plans you know how to use google.
sandherr412 t1_iugi3w6 wrote
preach
thatburghfan t1_iug3o9l wrote
I don't care what business owners think. I'm not a "you're dead to me if you support X" or a "I only deal with people who think like me" person. If a business provides something I want at a fair price, that's good enough for me. I don't need them to be ideologically compatible. Should we assume all the employees think the same way so we can try to hurt them too?
Tired of looking for new reasons to hate.
djn24 t1_iug7qbt wrote
Supporting or not supporting a candidate that campaigns on removing people's rights isn't just a matter of differing opinions.
>We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. - Elie Wiesel during his acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize.
oblivia17 t1_iuhbv91 wrote
Elie Wiesel watched babies being burned alive in open pits. You're really going to use his words in your condemnation of the crack'd egg for voting R? You guys are so out of touch, I wish you could see how you look to normal people.
djn24 t1_iuhrjcq wrote
Let's look at what directly preceded that line in his speech:
>And that is why I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim.
And a little after that line:
>There is so much injustice and suffering crying out for our attention: victims of hunger, of racism, and political persecution, writers and poets, prisoners in so many lands
Wiesel spoke about calling out and confronting injustice long before it can ever reach the levels he saw.
So yes, his thoughts on the subject are worth sharing while discussing if you should or shouldn't be neutral about a political party in America that openly embraces making life more difficult for marginalized groups across the spectrum, questioning their rights, and emboldens hate groups to terrorize those individuals.
To minimize that, as you are doing, signals that it is okay to support that.
Considering that you, oblivia17, frequently post on conspiracy theory subs about "the left" and on conservative/neo-fascist groups, you have clearly already taken your side.
No_One_Important484 t1_iug6p8n wrote
I agree with you 100% in principle. The issue that makes things different now than say 20 - 30 years ago is the extreme positions that certain politicians hold. My wife is an immigrant from the third world and there are lots of politicians (and their supporters) who genuinely believe she should not be in America.
How should I feel about this when I see a sign that supports these views? If I stop patroning the business or actively organize a boycott, am I continuing the cycle of hatred? If I ignore the political beliefs and continue to support the business am I betraying other people who are similar to my wife? Simple things that we all used to take for granted, like supporting businesses whose owners have different political perspectives, are not so simple anymore.
DERBY_OWNERS_CLUB t1_iug9k5d wrote
>If a business provides something I want at a fair price, that's good enough for me.
What if another business provides the same thing for the same price and isn't shoving its politics in your face?
This is on the business owners for making a political statement with their business.
>Tired of looking for new reasons to hate.
Who said anything about "hate"? The business owner wants to make a political statement, we are forced to react.
chiphook57 t1_iugktv5 wrote
"Forced"
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BonnieIndigo t1_iug9gu6 wrote
What do you think they do with the profits they make from your patronage?
rae1104 t1_iugi87i wrote
Why would I give my money to someone who is just going to buy trump flags with it
[deleted] t1_iugnj98 wrote
i sure wouldnt work with a bunch of right wing loonies any longer than I absolutely HAD to.
Ketamine_Cowboy t1_iug5a0c wrote
Preach man. A lot of negativity and hate in this sub.
Karma4Clunkerz t1_iufyvbe wrote
Thats why I don’t shop anywhere because everything is owned by someone I disagree with about something
DERBY_OWNERS_CLUB t1_iug9ooc wrote
Plenty of businesses don't put up political signs of any sort... nice attempt though?
Karma4Clunkerz t1_iui0cpn wrote
Oh so it’s okay to shop at a wall mart bc they don’t have signs up about who the company supports? Got it.
ttsignal24 t1_iug8m43 wrote
People in business generally like what Trump was about. Most of them have suffered since. The average person is suffering since Trump left office. Biden has been fixing things for decades......... Biden has done nothing for decades . Things were better when Trump was President.
Pittsburgh looks nothing like it did a few years ago. Camps, tents, more people are suffering.
Also look into our Mayor....... Terrible
DERBY_OWNERS_CLUB t1_iugai8r wrote
Trump had the highest unemployment in the modern era and the biggest economic decline. He had to send out almost $1 trillion in stimulus because people were suffering so much, not to mention all the businesses that had to be bailed out or went under. Unemployment is lower under Biden than Trump. Wages are higher.
To say things were objectively better is frankly dumb. Trump can say "only because of COVID", Biden can say "only because of Russia", and they're both making a good argument. The US economy largely does what it does regardless of who is in the Oval Office. There's no real evidence to the contrary.
iwifia t1_iugaxl8 wrote
Stop speaking logic. You'll scare him.
Cl1mh4224rd t1_iuguoma wrote
>Stop speaking logic. You'll scare him.
They're already scared. It's part of the mixture that fuels so many Republican voters.
ttsignal24 t1_iugdnu2 wrote
That's the last thing I want.
iwifia t1_iugfign wrote
We know.
ttsignal24 t1_iugd4dm wrote
You seem to be doing fine. That's awesome. Tell us about yourself. How many people did you have working with you during Trump vs Biden? Have you been able to increase their wages via raises? Are you helping them with inflation until things get better? What is your budget before you have to tell people you love that you (the business) can not longer afford them?
I'm honestly asking. It's been tough for me to find / keep people.
Before you ask, we have never started anyone for less than twice the 'minimum wage'..
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Its tough for you to find/keep people because either :
- Youre hard to work for.
- You arent paying enough.
Cl1mh4224rd t1_iuguhtt wrote
>People in business generally like what Trump was about. Most of them have suffered since. The average person is suffering since Trump left office. Biden has been fixing things for decades......... Biden has done nothing for decades . Things were better when Trump was President.
>Pittsburgh looks nothing like it did a few years ago. Camps, tents, more people are suffering.
>Also look into our Mayor....... Terrible
Everything about your comment is pure delusion. I pity you.
ZealousParsnip t1_iuf2f1p wrote
Thank you for sharing.
brownmuffalo t1_iufo3zw wrote
K.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iufkk1n wrote
I only buy my meat from farms that support Joe Biden 😤😤😤
potato_witch t1_iug4645 wrote
That is a huge difference in conservative and liberal thought. I don’t have a Biden sign, or shirts, or hats, I don’t go around taunting people yelling “go Biden!” I don’t look for Biden signs in establishments and I don’t know anyone that leans left that does. I voted for him because I believe he was the most qualified and best for the job. That’s it. I swear some conservatives praise Trump like he is a god and can do no wrong. Most people that voted for Biden will tell you platforms and actions they disagree with. There is a reason why there is a correlation of level of education and the likelihood of being liberal.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iug4qp5 wrote
Who are you ranting at? I don't praise Donald Trump.
sandherr412 t1_iughwew wrote
lol you have to pick a side!!!
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iui3z5h wrote
Sorry sometimes I forget I'm supposed to play the strawman 😂
kennethnoisewater99 t1_iufvdbb wrote
Where do you buy all your Trump and Let's Go Brandon flags at?
Another fuck your feelings ass clown spending hard earned money to own the Libs.
No one sees you as a complete joke, trust me.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iug04v5 wrote
Lol I don't buy useless crap to celebrate politicians.
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Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iug19t6 wrote
Well aren't you just a real people person.
kennethnoisewater99 t1_iug1rtr wrote
I'm a lizard man who drinks children blood, remember? I'm not a person, I'm a lizard.
LMAO.
The National Enquirer party.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iug1v2z wrote
You alright dude? Who thinks you're a lizard?
kennethnoisewater99 t1_iug29a6 wrote
I only buy my meat from farms that support Joe Biden.
Are YOU alright dude?
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iug2i83 wrote
Lol I don't actually only buy my meat from farms that support Joe Biden. I'm just making fun of OP. I buy my meat mostly at Lampert's Deli and sometimes Giant Eagle.
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skunksdontstink t1_iufprzm wrote
Huh? This is ridiculous... imagine if the table was turned and a proprietor asked you who you voted for, and determined whether you can purchase the service or product offered based on your political association.
No need to divide us even more.
kennethnoisewater99 t1_iufvsul wrote
Imagine being fully behind the bakery that refuses a guy couple and fully behind not wearing masks, but refusing to understand this point because you're a GOP fuckhead whose entire existence is a double standard.
ricksebak t1_iug13hm wrote
> imagine if the table was turned and a proprietor asked you who you voted for
Where in OP’s post did they ask the proprietor anything at all?
They didn’t. The proprietor hung a sign in their window specifically so that the outside world could associate the proprietor’s business with the candidate. And in this case it worked as the proprietor intended.
Excellent straw man argument tho.
DERBY_OWNERS_CLUB t1_iug9w4r wrote
...isn't OP saying that would be awesome because they would be happy to not support businesses asking these questions?
[deleted] t1_iugnyra wrote
Id say a business intentionally excluding half the population gets what it deserves.
Argercy t1_iufw4ix wrote
Some people have a desire to be segregated from those they feel superiority over. It's tribal, they want their own tribe to prosper, and political affiliation is the only acceptable way to fulfill the primitive need to be in a tribe and see that tribe thrive.
Putting a sign in the window of your business with your tribe's affiliation on it is akin to a "no coloreds or Italians need apply" sign back in the early 1900s. Keeps the riffraff out and encourages business with those you feel kinship with.
Cl1mh4224rd t1_iugv99h wrote
>It's tribal...
What a weird-ass world you must live in, where putting up a political sign is not considered tribal, but avoiding locations with a specific sign is considered tribal. Wow.
Argercy t1_iuh99hx wrote
Oh no, that's tribal too. I thought that was obvious...it's to discourage the patronage of those who don't identify with the same tribe.
It's not about political support anymore.
I just want to add, political campaigning contributes to strife and anger...in marketing, you want to create an emotion that people will remember when they need a service you provide. Politicians do this, creating emotions to get your vote to give them the position of power and make more money. For themselves.
Tribalism is heavily encouraged through fearmongering and mudslinging during campaigns. Your emotions are being used against you for votes, both side do this, and neither side gives a flying fuck about you. Politicians are not saviors coming to defeat your imaginary oppressors registered under your opposing side. They blow a lot of hot air, sling a lot of mud, then shrink into the shadows until the next campaign period. I've been a working, independent adult for 20 years now and I can't think of one thing other than some local hunting laws in my area that have changed enough to make an impact. If anything, things have become exponentially worse.
We need to quit aligning with tribal leaders and using them as our identities, we need to get the pitchforks out. And a gallows.
EvetsYenoham t1_iuftq11 wrote
I can’t imagine letting politics run my life.
BonnieIndigo t1_iuftvxn wrote
How lucky for you that you can conceive of a life in which politics don’t govern your ability to obtain services or healthcare.
CDewfus t1_iufwthc wrote
Or get married. Or even hold hands.
EvetsYenoham t1_iufzm0w wrote
Where can’t you hold hands with someone?
xWhiteRavenx t1_iug6qzr wrote
69 countries have laws against homosexuality and many of those offenses can be subject to the death penalty. In the US, there are cities in the Deep South (and some in rural PA), that would make you a target if you hold hands with someone of the same sex. And now, there’s been an uptick in homophobic hate crimes, while a member of the supreme court (and many anti-gay politicians) have called for a repeal of gay marriage and a reversal of many laws protecting gays in the US. I get that some issues shouldn’t be worth dictating your life, but others are actual life-or-death issues for many of us.
EvetsYenoham t1_iug8zzc wrote
I thought we were talking in Pittsburgh sub…maybe don’t visit those places? I bet a ton of women aren’t flocking to Iran to go sight-seeing…
xWhiteRavenx t1_iug936j wrote
My point is it can easily happen in Pittsburgh…
CDewfus t1_iujrw4s wrote
Maybe not as easily, because trump types seem really scared of cities. Until they get a license to kill.
Cl1mh4224rd t1_iugvelw wrote
>I thought we were talking in Pittsburgh...
Pittsburgh is the only place where politics don't matter? Hmm...
nice___bot t1_iug6s25 wrote
Nice!
djn24 t1_iug84zp wrote
Or where politics encourages hate crimes against their place of worship or in their neighborhood.
Dude reeks of privilege and still doesn't get it in 2022.
EvetsYenoham t1_iufz4bp wrote
I guess lucky me. You truly believe it matters and it doesn’t. Either party could care less about either of us.
BonnieIndigo t1_iug0330 wrote
One of them will let me govern my own body. The other one won’t.
No way do I think the Democrats are the world’s best political organization. But they’re leaps and bounds ahead of Christofascists.
EvetsYenoham t1_iug299v wrote
As soon as you start saying shit like “christofascists” I just stop listening. And I don’t follow party politics so it’s not personal for me. You could say “libtards” and I stop listening just the same.
BonnieIndigo t1_iug2hnx wrote
I mean, you weren’t listening to start with, and you are clearly so privileged that none of this stuff that affects non-white-males matters a jot to you. Your apathy hurts everyone. But you do you. I’m sure you sleep well at night.
EvetsYenoham t1_iug3j6w wrote
You think I’m insensitive etc but I’m not. I simply don’t allow politics to guide my life and be the basis of how i judge people’s character. Why is that hard for you to understand? Why do you go about judging me? I do sleep fairly well at night.
chad4359 t1_iugks98 wrote
I stopped listening as soon as privilege was brought up, what a wild thread this is lol
djn24 t1_iug7xes wrote
Let me guess: white, straight male, probably middle class and not part of a religious group that is frequently targeted by hate groups?
This is what privilege looks like, buddy.
EvetsYenoham t1_iug984s wrote
Yeah, pretty much. Again, do any of those things change depending on who you vote for? Don’t confuse what I said with some hateful thing. I just don’t pay attention to politics. Not because I don’t care but because I know it doesn’t matter whether I care.
djn24 t1_iug9xhn wrote
But it does matter.
That is what privilege is. You haven't been personally affected, as far as you know, by politics or society at large, because you are not part of a disenfranchised group. You have the privilege of not knowing what it is like for others.
Your right to be married isn't on the ballot (non-cis/non-heterosexual people).
Your access to a standard medical procedure isn't on the ballot (women).
Politicians across the country aren't running on the position that you don't deserve to exist (transgender individuals).
Politicians across the country don't openly court the support of and embolden the hatred of groups that wish you were dead (Jews and blacks right now, but others as well).
Etc.
You say it doesn't matter because it hasn't caused you personal pain yet. But you live in a city full of people that are constantly harmed by politics. And it just so happens that almost all of that harm is caused by individuals of the same political party.
And to answer your first question: yes, who you vote for does matter for all of this. Do not give power to the people that campaign on pushing policies that will actively harm groups of people or who court the support of, and therefore embolden, hate groups.
In 2022, a vote for a Republican is a vote to harm women's rights and autonomy in America, to further villainize one of the most marginalized communities in our society (transgender individuals), and give a rubber stamp of approval to people that campaigned with dog whistles galore about how Jews, Muslims and black people are evil and the cause of many of the problems in our society.
Not only does giving power to these individuals give them the opportunity to pass laws that will harm these groups, but it also tells the world that we are a country that supports harming these individuals.
potato_witch t1_iug361g wrote
I’m guessing you don’t have a uterus. I’d LOVE to not let politics run my life.
EvetsYenoham t1_iug49wy wrote
I don’t have a uterus. There is that. I will never have that perspective. That’s why I don’t really comment on that topic. I don’t see it as my place to comment. In my world, men wouldn’t be able to make decisions about women’s bodies. I mean there is the very rare case where the man wants to keep and the lady doesn’t, which in my world, is a real pickle, but otherwise men should not get to decide one way or the other. Only women get to vote on that one.
potato_witch t1_iugfobg wrote
But voting for or supporting a politician IS voting/supporting for wether you believe women should be able to make decisions about their body or not. I chose to support businesses that support a woman’s right to healthcare and bodily autonomy.
Cl1mh4224rd t1_iugw3n2 wrote
>I don’t see it as my place to comment.
And yet you go on to do just that, here on Reddit. But you won't "comment" on it when it comes time to vote?
You coward.
critzboombah t1_iufxy85 wrote
Check your privileges guy.
A little perspective goes a long way.
EvetsYenoham t1_iug1yq4 wrote
Ok bud. I’ll go right ahead check all of my privileges. Does a lot of perspective go a long way? Your perspective has enlightened you hasn’t it?
goldenbrown_pgh t1_iufise0 wrote
Umm ok. I'm generally an adult who doesn't make my decisions based on politics. Just shaking my head as people openly look for reasons to start a fight and divide us as a country, even more.
CarRamrodIsNumberOne t1_iufs33r wrote
Glad you could take a quick break from r/ass to drop some knowledge!
SteakJones t1_iuft6cg wrote
🤣 🤣 🤣
BurghPuppies t1_iug4i25 wrote
People choosing not to spend money at a place that endorses a candidate they disapprove of isn’t dividing us. Actively trying to overthrow elections and threatening to do it again is. Calling the media “the enemy of the people” and railing against “elites” isn’t helping, either.
Also, the people railing against “elites” are, just for a quick roll call: a billionaire real estate mogul, a thoracic heart surgeon with 10 houses, a millionaire author, a college football Hall of Famer… did I miss any? I mean, if these guys aren’t elites who is????
Reasonable_Dot_661 t1_iug75ky wrote
Well said.
ask_the_fisherman t1_iufjq1f wrote
I wonder where they would eat if they leave a bigger city in a blue state. Drive 20-25 miles out of Pittsburgh it is Republican. The same is true in New York and Ohio. Once you leave the bigger cities it is conservatives.
icestormsurfing t1_iufpqb1 wrote
I'll stop at Sheetz but that's pretty much it.
[deleted] t1_iugnr7w wrote
Someplace without a F-ing trump sign hung up ill tell you that.
InevitablePersimmon6 t1_iufknko wrote
I avoid anywhere with Trump signs or signs of politicians who have supported him. I now live in Peters Township and businesses in Washington County aren’t afraid to show their political leanings. Neither are ones in Fayette County. It’s easy to eliminate things. I’ve also seen idiots (like that Crack’d Egg place in Brentwood or Al’s Cafe in Bethel Park) post on social media about how they bucked COVID restrictions and put everyone at risk, so that helped my family never give them money.