SamPost t1_iuitzz6 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 5:34 PM

Reply to comment by timesuck in Book Cafe by life453

This look kinda old. Has there been any update? Especially on the civil suits? I couldn't find anything and while I don't want to support a scumbag, I also don't want to condemn someone based on lightweight allegations. Any info appreciated.

timesuck t1_iuj17fx wrote on October 31, 2022 at 6:21 PM

As far as I know, there has not been an update to the civil suits brought by Davis and that was over two years ago. They may still be in court or they may have been dismissed.

I'll say this though, to call the allegations "lightweight" is really quite shitty and dismissive. Multiple women came forward, risking personal reputation and safety, to the point where a pattern of harassing behavior was established.

WESA stated that the article didn't just go through their normal editorial process, but also went through further legal vetting. It's pretty easy for someone like Davis with resources to file a civil case in court to try and "defend" themselves.

You can look at the information available to you and make a decision whether or not you want to give this business your money. It's that simple, plenty of people still go there and that's their choice, but I'd caution you against trying to minimize the experience of those women in order to somehow justify your own feelings about it.

SamPost t1_iuj4dej wrote on October 31, 2022 at 6:42 PM

I wasn't being at all dismissive, and I really have no prejudice one way of the other as I haven't been a patron since before the FH bridge collapsed. But I wanted to get informed as I will be in the neighborhood more often once that link is reestablished.

I was simply pointing out that when the article was written the situation was still in the he-said-she-said stage, and it is unfair to draw firm convictions from that when more evidence should since have emerged in the ongoing case. Which we should all want to know.

timesuck t1_iuj727j wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:00 PM

Most of these situations boil down to personal accounts. I’m not sure what type of evidence you’re waiting for, but clearly you don’t think credible accounts that were vetted through legal council by WESA from multiple women are good enough.

Wild to me you’d think these women would just get together and lie to what? Be mean? They stand to gain nothing from coming forward except for people to acknowledge what happened to them.

If you want to get coffee there, get coffee there. Personally, I will go ahead and believe the women and continue to give my money to the many other shops in town that are owned by people who have never had their employees get together and accuse them of sexual harassment.

SamPost t1_iujdfvh wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:43 PM

People have all kinds of ulterior motives, from unjustly disgruntled employees, to those fishing for a monetary settlements. And, the world is also full of sexual predators. So, I try to keep an open mind.

Myself, I was just hoping to see if anything under oath had emerged. WESA legal council is only concerned with slander liability, which is a meaningless bar for truth.