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westinghousesghost t1_ireqibc wrote

Reply to comment by Cryptic_Skies in Bridge Painter dies after Semi- crashes into the bucket lift by [deleted]

I used to supervise a warehouse...the lack of give-a-shit among the associates (for work ethic, safety, quality, anything) was astounding. I quit that job after 2 guys committed a huge safety violation (which they had been trained numerous times over 2 years of work to avoid) and the regional manager blocked my efforts to fire them for it.

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SendAstronomy t1_iret0bp wrote

The unwritten rule at a lot of jobs. You have to do things the safe way, but management will look the other way so the job can be done fast/cheap.

Same thing in information technology. Companies will outright ignore security to do it fast/cheap. Occasionally they will sacrifice an employee to take the blame when they get hacked.

And the bigger the company the less likely they will get held to account. Look at how many credit card breaches happen every year.

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westinghousesghost t1_ireyfed wrote

>The unwritten rule at a lot of jobs. You have to do things the safe way, but management will look the other way so the job can be done fast/cheap.

Ain't that the truth. My current job involves occasionally using a boom lift. I have experience with them and use appropriate safety gear, but I'm not technically certified. For my own safety and liability, I make sure I stay well within my limited range of skills with it. But there's one area I need to use it that I don't feel safe using it (on a grade, enough to set the grade alarm off). People, and my boss, keep telling me ways to do it, and I'm just like "nope, pay someone who knows what they're doing to do it, not worth it to me." Don't make employees do things they don't feel safe doing.

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Cryptic_Skies t1_irerkuz wrote

i spent a summer in a warehouse as part of a contracted team. i completely agree with you. my team was fired because two of our members refused to follow basic safety protocols and caused $5k worth of damage.

as for the bucket truck...while i never did anything that would endanger my life, there were several situations where safety could no longer be first, only because the task could otherwise not be completed.

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