Hi_Im_A t1_iy3h5p3 wrote on November 28, 2022 at 1:47 PM

Reply to comment by dolanbp in Article about the terminal building development. Thoughts? by _koopatroopa_

I didn't say "there should be a FWGS in the Strip."

You said more than once that you can get everything you would get at the state store at PA Libations, and I pointed out the large category of things that make that untrue.

dolanbp t1_iy3j6oy wrote on November 28, 2022 at 2:05 PM

The state store sells wine and liquor. PA Libations sells wine and liquor. Sure, that's somewhat reductionist, but its the truth. Complaining that a store doesn't carry everything that another store carries is a dead horse you'll never beat anything out of. If you want something from FWGS, there's four or five stores within a 5-15 minute commute of the strip by various transportation methods. If what you want is wine, there's even more options through grocery stores.

The FWGS is just an example of the bigger problem though. Specialty shops are the reason people shop at the strip. They don't go there to buy bottles of big name wine and a Chipotle burrito bowl. Suburban shopping malls have that. We've seen this sort of thing done before at Allegheny Center Mall, Southside Works, at Station Square, at The Waterfront. We need to stop making urban centers designed for suburban people.

Ernie077 t1_iy55jyp wrote on November 28, 2022 at 8:47 PM

You said you’ve been out of the Burgh for a few years. There has been an explosion of offices and apartments in the strip. People who work/live in the strip can walk to the liquor store at lunch/after work to pick up something not available at PA Libations.

dolanbp t1_iy5ij0m wrote on November 28, 2022 at 10:13 PM

When I left (mid-covid), several were already built, but it looks like the wasteland between One Waterfront Place and Cork Factory has partially filled in. Is Railroad street useful yet? Does the trail go past 15th street now?

I can understand the need for a liquor store if the demographic has changed that much and the demand is there. What I don't understand are rhe other "suburban walkable mall" choices.