"He continued: “Pennsylvania is one of only eight states that bans pre-processing of early mail-in ballots, forcing county officials to wait until 7 a.m. on Tuesday to begin opening returned ballots and scanning them into the system.”"

Is anybody opposed to counting votes early? If so why?

I'm for counting votes at least two weeks before the election. Obviously votes that come in at the last minute may take an extra day.

I hope Fetterman wins. I really don't want to know that so many people around me are willing to be represented by a quack doctor who is probably going to vote to remove rights from people.

But I have met people, and I know that most people don't have any idea what politics actually is. They will be voting for the nice man they saw on Oprah, and that's all the further they can think.

We'll see on Wed. But in 2016 I learned to never underestimate the failings of democracy.

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Reporting always looks weird because we do this at the county level and all of the empty ones can count their R votes real fast.

So the exact same “red mirage” that happened in the 2020 election (though probably not quite to the same degree as there was more mail in voting happening then).

There will no doubt be several people who don’t understand this declaring a republican victory before the mail in votes are counted, just like there were then.

I remember the odds on betting sites actually swung in favor of trump when the initial votes were being counted on election night because people failed to grasp this and thought trump was winning.

And they admit it! They want to stop the counts and come up with these laws as a way to make their whining sound legitimate.

They don't care who was ahead at midnight either. They're just opposed to the concept of democratic elections in general

Mastriano winning would be a "flee the state" level event for my boyfriend and I. Oz winning would just confuse the hell out of me.

At least Mastriano runs on hate and control, which resonates with a lot of folks. Oz, however, is a well-known snake oil salesman. Who's his base, old folks who watch his show in a doctor's waiting room?

I think the argument is basically that, if early results are revealed, it could influence the election. Supposedly, there is already a similar effect where West Coast voting drops as the East Coast areas come back with preliminary results. People figure that the election is already over, since one side has a higher count, so they don't bother voting. Arguably, if all of these vote results are kept secret, there would be no effect like that. However, they are proceeding from the assumption that security is bad, and therefore they probably suspect that such preliminary results would get leaked.

As it is, I feel like our current method of news sources reporting exit polls as if they were actual numbers is somewhat deceptive, and manipulative.

Ever since Reagan won, there's been discussions of the hazards of celebrity campaigns... Of course, people also predicted that Kennedy getting elected would mean that the Vatican would run the United States.

Of course.

Democrats skew younger and tend to be employed and/or raising families. We don't have time to wait in line to vote. We're voting by mail.

In my opinion the GOP essentially hates anything that increases voter participation or the convenience of voting. They are anti mail in voting and love to obstruct anything that changes the voting experience for the better.

What are flee the state policies that he has?

I'm torn on weather I'd leave or not. I just got here, I kinda love this city. I think I would rather stay and help shelter my fellow LGBTQ+ peers, and be someone that promotes turning the tied against the absolute darkness of truly terrifying ideas like the ones Mastriano pushes.

I get what you mean though. Oz would just be par for the course - an idiot grifter grifted idiots to no ones surprise. Mastriano WOULD cement the idea that there is NOTHING worth discussing with republicans, and we should expect to treat them as such.

Personally I think we’ve moved past people just not understanding it, they’re willfully misunderstanding

I can’t speak for Tight, but my fiancé and I are in the same boat. We’re getting married soon and in a year or two will be looking to have kids. Mastriano winning scares us with him looking to make abortions illegal. Now, obviously we’re not looking to have an abortion just for the sake of having one, but God forbid something were to happen to her during the pregnancy that would risk her life, not being able to terminate the pregnancy right away to prevent that, and instead watch her suffer while our doctors run around trying to figure out the legal ramifications to what absolutely has to be done instead of being you know, doctors, scares us all to hell.

It’s not just that we can’t count them until the day of, we can’t even prep them. If there are concerns (as mentioned elsewhere) that leaked early results could swing things, certainly we could all agree taking ballots out of their envelopes and getting them ready to be scanned is like… reasonable?

I feel like “certainly we can all agree” is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever said

We also ignore the Republican bullshit around vote by mail. If I believed those fraud claims, I'd vote in person too.

Weirdly, before the Right lost its collective mind on vote by mail, I think it skewed Republican.

The Heartbeat bill is a big one. "On day one, Mastriano will place an immediate ban on Critical Race and Gender Theory Studies in Pennsylvania schools." This is also pretty fucking wild; he is bringing up nonexistant issues to stoke fear and hatred in his base. Unless he wants to instate bans on college courses, which is also nuts.

"On day one, Mastriano will place an immediate ban on biological males in girls' locker rooms and restrooms. On the same day, Mastriano will ban biological males from competing in girls' sports." Indicates to me he wants it to be as challenging as possible for me to piss in a public place, which I moved to Pennsylvania to get away from, so the only remaining reason to stay would be med marijuana. Other places have rec.

This is my thought process as well and it's genuinely pretty terrifying. My husband and I put off trying until we felt we were in a good spot and the potential of what you mentioned makes me regret that. This election is huge for a lot of people and a lot of reasons.

I'm also not able to vote yet (green card holder but not a citizen) and the fact that there are people saying it wouldn't be that bad or choosing to sit this one out because they don't like Mastriano/Oz but refuse to vote for a Democrat makes me angry and a little sad.

Mastriano was a speaker at the Stop the Steal Rally on Jan 6th, paid to bus down a group of protestors, and was pictured outside of the Capitol as it was being breached. He was one of the conspirators who attempted to put forth a slate of "alternate electors" to hand PA to Trump after he lost the state in 2020. He attempted to get PA to follow Arizona with a fraudulent "audit". He's bragged about how he could use his authority as Governor to change election results.

He's a Christian nationalist and has attended QAnon events.

I say without exaggeration this guy is an outright fascist.

Noted.

Get out to vote and take a friend.

What method is used in other places, and around the world? If you count early, is that count public (which could impact future voters)? Don't some people send in a mail-in ballot but then change their vote by voting in-person with a provisional ballot? I think it's legitimately complicated, but far from too complicated to make this work well.

What would you suggest for a statewide mix of in-person and mail-in ballots, combined with provisional ballots?

Lol Oprah endored Fetterman.

Prep the mail in votes ahead of time so they can be scanned more expeditiously. I think the counties could handle scanning all their mail ins on Election Day. Then just wait until after the polls close to start reporting. Provisionals should be held back until they’re verified as not being a second vote from someone who’s already cast one.

I don’t think you can cancel your mail ballot and vote provisionally after it’s been sent in. You can certainly turn it in and vote in person, but I think once it’s out of your hands and at the county office, it’s… out of your hands

😆 🤣 😂 😹 I hope both win

Oz should have this in the bag.

>I don’t think you can cancel your mail ballot and vote provisionally after it’s been sent in. You can certainly turn it in and vote in person, but I think once it’s out of your hands and at the county office, it’s… out of your hands

Hmm, you may be right. I think I recall provisional requires handing in your mail-in ballot at the polling center?

I'm opposed to actually counting the votes early, as the count will inevitably leak out. I wouldn't be opposed to preparing the ballots to be scanned- opening, unfolding, etc. But that would also involve additional security measures. Right now the ballots are kept unopened in sealed cases.

Republicans are that’s why this is a thing. This way when all the votes from cities and people who voted by mail come in later they can scream “FRAUDDDD” and try to delegitimize results that don’t go their way.

This Family will be right behind you if that happens.

I love and respect the women of my life too much to be a passive participant in the state-destruction of their humanity.

If you believe your mail in vote was lost or will not be counted for some technical reason. You can vote provisional. They review each provisional ballot after all the other votes are counted. If they see you already vote by mail or in person your provisional ballot will not be counted. I did this after my mail in ballot got lost in the postal system. The even notified me they counted it…. More than a week later.

It’s even a little more granular: if you bring every piece of paper and envelope of your mail in ballot to the polls, a poll worker can accept it and you can vote with a regular day-of ballot. If you forget any of the pieces you have to vote with a provisional. And actually if you forget the whole mail-in ballot entirely you can still vote with a provisional, cause they check to make sure you haven’t sent anything else in before they count it

The GOP has allwsys been a propoent of mail in balloting UNTILL TRUMP. The late counting played into his 300 AM cheat. Since around then the mail ins are usually posted. All because of trump ego that he want cheating instead of losing.

Most places secure in locked ballot boxes. This was the actual occurance of votes secure and rhen removed; that trumpers used as evidence to acuse illegal stuffed ballots

>There will no doubt be several people who don’t understand this declaring a republican victory before the mail in votes are counted

Oh, they'll understand it just fine, but that's not what they'll say.

I mean, off the top of my head, if I were trans, gay or a woman of child-bearing age that isn't ready to be a parent (or lets be honest, just a woman in general), I would have lots of concerns being in a Mastriano-run state.

Honestly, because the right lost its collective mind on vote by mail, I'm no longer voting by mail. It feels like they're looking for any reason to discard mail-in ballots, so I want to be there when my vote is cast to ensure minimal fuckery with my ballot.

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Lol, we (as a society) can't even all agree on whether these votes are worthy of being counted at all!

I would be okay with prepping to count, but counting them early feels like it could influence the results.

I actually like Election Day. How did we survive without early voting?

I think counting mail-in votes starting when the polls open on election day is reasonable... what I think is unreasonable is that there's only one election day. So, I don't know that I agree with you that it should start two weeks early but I can't think of any reason not to start at least one day early so that we have an accurate count when the polls close on Nov. 8.

I'd really like to see some additional early voting options, at least in the larger cities, a few days before election day... options other than mail-in which I just don't personally trust. But regardless, I don't see any reason not to start counting the day before and not releasing any results until polls close on election day.

>if early results are revealed, it could influence the election

Maybe that's the argument but I've seen nothing to suggest that it is actually true. I don't even understand what the mechanism for "influence" is here - if people see the vote going one way it seems just as likely to encourage them to vote as not. The argument seems pretty half-baked.

>I feel like our current method of news sources reporting exit polls as if they were actual numbers is somewhat deceptive, and manipulative.

I certainly agree that the way these things are reported is not enlightening and contributes to confusion.

>as the count will inevitably leak out

Does it in other states that do this?

I cannot wait until the election is over and I can stop hearing about this

I don't think I've ever waited in any appreciable line to vote in Pittsburgh

I’ve had the same thought. But between living in Allegheny County and being able to confirm that my ballot was accepted, I’m pretty confident I won’t be disenfranchised this election. But next election (assuming we have one), so may be less confident.

At least it looks like Mastriano won’t be able to fuck things up from the governor’s mansion

GOP isn't a fan of vote by mail and they were against this even before Trump. Lower propensity voters tend to vote Democrat and they are more likely to vote by mail than on election day... GOP is aware of this and tries to stop it from happening. They don't want it to be easy, they want the party faithful willing to crawl over broken glass to be the only ones to show up. The fewer the number of voters, the more it inherently benefits the GOP.

What changed with Trump is that he actively saw voting by mail as a way of creating chaos in the midst of a pandemic, knowing that by discouraging his supporters from voting that way there would be a larger disparity than usual between in-person voting and mail in ballots. It was all part of his master plan to just claim victory with many votes left uncounted... the only possible way this tosser could ever win by anything remotely close to the landslide he claims.

Voting was less accessible and fewer people did it

Exactly

https://www.courthousenews.com/montanans-odds-mail-election-replace-zinke/

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1375473948587143172

https://twitter.com/chris_notcapn/status/1401306119461642242

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/05/heritage-foundation-dark-money-voter-suppression-laws/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/supreme-court-gop-attorney-defends-voting-restrictions-saying-they-help-n1259305

Whoever downvoted you is an idiot or a liar.

So pulling up stakes and moving is a better option than just driving to say New York or Maryland to get an abortion if the need arised?

It's going to be Shapiro and Oz.

Too much faith lost in the fake persona that is John Fetterman.

No, but voting to not have that happen is way easier than both of those options.

This is going to be a mess.

There are going to be all sorts of problems in PA and elsewhere as the early vote and mailed ballots get challenged.

This.

He is out to destroy public education in this state under the guise of eliminating property taxes.

> Maybe that's the argument but I've seen nothing to suggest that it is actually true. I don't even understand what the mechanism for "influence" is here - if people see the vote going one way it seems just as likely to encourage them to vote as not. The argument seems pretty half-baked.

If voting were zero cost, it probably wouldn't, but most people have to take time off of work, arrange for transport, get childcare, etc. And if it looks like a bygone conclusion, why bother?

Have you confirmed that your ballot is good? Because this just dropped, too. Apparently a bunch of non-dated or incorrectly dated ballots which will now require in-person curing.

https://www.alleghenycounty.us/elections/incorrect,-no-date-ballots.aspx

It’s so republicans can cry fraud when the tally starts increasing for democrats

The absolute stupidity presented when you say Fetterman is fake so your rooting for a quack tv personality.

Do you want a cookie?

As someone who recently moved here from Florida, Mastriano’s threats to make PA the new Florida terrify me. I know from experience exactly what that would entail.

He's in favor of "conversion therapy" for LGBTQ kids.

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Don't forget openly courting the antisemitic vote on Gab. Given we had a synagogue shooting in PA a few years ago, a candidate for governor courting donations and votes from the very platform where the shooter announced his plans should be an immediate turnoff for anyone. It's his own goddamn state, he knows exactly who he is courting on there because he is one of them.

Do you have any articles suggesting that effect? I've studied political science for quite a few years and never encountered research showing that early poll closures on the east coast have that impact.

They're anti-voting in general.

Honestly? No. It's one of those things I grew up hearing, which seemed to make sense. Doing a quick search turns up papers like "Do exit polls influence voting behaviors?" which are locked behind pay walls, but the excerpts seemed to indicate that there is an effect scene, albeit a small one, on West Coast voting based upon East Coast exit poll results.

As someone who has studied political science, presumably you may have better access to those scholarly articles than I do.

The people closely watching election returns come in are mostly not the people who make a last minute decision whether or not to vote

What amazes me the most is that he is on record, recorded on video/audio, admitting that if he didn’t like the results, he would simply say it was rigged.

He told everyone he would lie, and his chucklefuck followers STILL THINK IT HAPPENED.

No amount of logic or reason will ever be able to crack through the dense skulls of MAGAts. And they are already admitting that they will only accept results that Republicans win, and will challenge any Democrat victories.

Fuck MAGA forever.

shrug Dunno. Election coverage is easy to find, and a lot of people will likely be stepping out of their workplace at 5:00 or 6:00 p.m., and trying to make that final decision as to whether they want to make the effort. I could list a few cases I've known of people who made that last minute decision not to head to the polls, but the plural of anecdote isn't data.

Yea... op is an oz voter and a republican

Are you serious?

So you want another pat toomey who will vote along party lines?

Another trump ass kisser. Thats all.

Whereas fetterman has proven that he is the rifht person for this job?

Lol. Do you all just live in the clouds?

At least you have options....

Some of us cant leave.

What about all the people that cant leave?

Did I say I was voting for OZ?

Not hardly Lil' Buckaroo.

Want to talk stupidity? It's pretty fucking stupid thinking there are only two people on the ballot for senate.

Fetterman is fake. His persona is built on him being the average working man, wearing his Carhartts and sitting in his brick basement.

But it's a show, a false front, a con.

Just like Oz, Fetterman is a fake.

Yes its called the red mirage. Its why theyre so obsessed with same day counting.

I was referring to saying they would move from the state, I didn't mention voting.

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>Not hardly Lil' Buckaroo.

Jesus, you're annoying as fuck. Good luck with that.

Yes, you were replying to me. This whole post is about voting. What I’m saying is it’s a topic we’ve discussed and it is a possibility. Moving is not out of the question. It would be hard, but luckily possible for us if it were to come to that. But it is easier to vote and make sure that’s not something we have to worry about.

Who exactly do you think passed our current mail in voting laws if not the Republicans?

This sub is full of bots or morons, perhaps both

https://www.pahousegop.com/electionreform

Can you link us to this video?

I'm already leaving next week. There are many reasons why but the fact that this governor race is even a discussion is absolutely nauseating.

Who ever wins, we all lose.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-mail-voting-law-act-77-mclinko-20220802.html%3FoutputType%3Damp

Some bipartisanship involved in creating act 77 but at the end of the day has the only people that have fought against mail in ballots or trying to limit the efficiency of mail in ballots are republicans.

Unless I’m misconstruing your reply, it seems as though you are under the impression republicans are for mail in ballots. One candidate for PA governor has spoken out against mail in ballots. I’ll give you 3 guesses which party he is from?

it’s a good thing the population of Pennsyltucky has been plummeting for the past decade or two

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Thank you for sharing - I’m good.

For anyone reading, this is a link with names of Allegheny County residents who made a mistake completing a mail in ballot

Yeah, but waiting for over a month is also ridiculous and will just give Republicans more reason to claim fraud.

You have a week, day/night shifts and very generous over time pay, start counting.

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It’s only done in like 10 states, but the likelihood of a leak will go up if more states start counting early.

I’d rather see investing in technology to process ballots more quickly.

The argument is actually that Republicans get counted first. Then they look like they’re pulling a head and they have a massive lead so what they do is they start spreading disinformation about how democrats are cheating and somehow catching up and overtaking them even though they were in the lead and now all these new votes magically appear

The time is gettig them out of envelopes and ready for scanner. Tech cant get much faster.

Thank you for typing something I haven't heard / seen in a while - chucklefuck. It gave me a good laugh, which was needed!

They thought they had the senior vote locked. And mail in was the best. The tRump cdme along

100% trump actually said the more people that vote means R lose. The R got nothing but cultet BS. they are out to get u. Econony and have no solution

>“Pennsylvania is one of only eight states that bans pre-processing of early mail-in ballots, forcing county officials to wait until 7 a.m. on Tuesday to begin opening returned ballots and scanning them into the system.”"

Keep in mind the the state Republican legislature set it up this way.

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Will you be with Oz in Philly this weekend fishing in the Atlantic?

But if Oz wins, more people lose

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Lol fetterman was up how much according to summer polls? Now it's flat, when we all know they favor the D? Now he's telling people about early leads by the other guy? Sounds like he's trying to plant a narrative for his likely loss.

Which is why I said earlier I would not be opposed to opening and unfolding the ballots in advance.

Or building the technologies to prepare the ballots for scanning.

If someone wasn't going to vote already they aren't going to change their mind day of.

Maybe if he hadn't killed those 300 dogs.

crudites

Who cares? We know that Democrats use more mail ins and therefore count later. We saw that in 2020. That’s an obvious prediction that does not matter

There’s no way to keep the results secret and they can easily affect turnout on Election Day. This way all we can go by is how many ballots were returned.

We could possibly pre-process

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If you were to believe that it was possible to illegally add mail in votes then that model would work. Everyone new Dems were voting by mail, the argument that by now they knew how much they needed to win so new ballots were added.

My understanding is that they have limited impact because most of the western states are not competitive at least in presidential elections.

And in midterms the effects are localized anyway

When u read the Zenke article. U will see why Republicans are pushing only voter or immediate family can deliver ballots to boxes. Anything to make voting harder is advantage Rs.

Dont listen to what they say. WATCH what they do. GOP has hook line sinker swallowed the tRump anti mail in Vote

It's not just "watching election returns." What if the news shows early voting numbers and says one party is up significantly and you were planning on going out to vote tomorrow.

Are you still going to vote if you're the opposing party? It seems hopeless for your candidate to win now, so why bother?

I'm fine with counting mail-in ballots early as long as the results are kept secure until close of polls - no leaks.

I think my longest wait was 15 minutes once. And I live off of Penn Ave and I can see Children's Hospital from my porch - so it's not like I'm in the outskirts of the city.

It is to just add extra days to the process and try to inject more fear and uncertainty. You also introduce opportunity to attack the system—if you can stop counting after one day, and you make sure “your guys” get counted first, then you win.

A large segment of GOP felt that Sr. voters would go R and mail in would max Sr vote

Oart of the prep is validation and scanner tech is pretty much maxed out. Usually the faster you the more jams u get you reach a sweet spot for speed / accuracy.

Ya need to edit that.

Honestly, I don't see any reason to even reveal vote counts until all votes have been cast*. We can wait. There is no benefit to early information but there are potential negatives. I'm not even sure why it's a thing.

Agreed

Wea... not very nimble with a phone I am a desktop full keyboard guy

Poll worker here. In PA, this is correct.

Lol. Same here I have the fattest fingers known to man

Same. I know there are the online checks etc but I don’t trust the right when it comes to voting. In person seems to be the safest and most reliable method

I’m honestly curious… where does the budget to do that come from? What happens if you are looking for election workers in a period of very low unemployment and just can’t find enough people? What about when your county’s election staff prefers to let the early leader stay on top for as long as possible to establish a narrative?

“Count faster” is a suggestion that sounds simple, but is nearly impossible in practice for both good and bad reasons.

38 of the 50 U.S. states (including the 4 most-populous states) allow "processing" of absentee/mail-in ballots prior to election day.

Processing means different things depending on exact state statutes, but can include anything from simply comparing the signature to the voter roll to make sure they match all the way up to running ballots through the scanner but not hitting the "tabulate" button which compiles the results. It usually includes signature match, removing from the envelope, flattening it, and stacking it with other ballots.

This way, when counting can officially begin (again, different depending on the state), all the officials have to do is put it in the machine for tabulation or hit the button to get the result, making the whole process much faster.

In California, for example, the first results published are almost always the mail-in ballots that were received well in advance of election day and have been prepped and were allowed to start being counted up to 29 days prior to the election.

Someone mentioned earlier that this could lead to vote tallies being leaked, however I've never seen that be an issue in California and, being the most populous state, you'd think if it were going to happen that's where it would occur. This is mostly because they aren't tabulated in a central system prior to election day.

I don't know man. I'm just a dude on reddit.

Haha. Fair enough. It does feel pretty hopeless. Here’s to the end of ad season.

I, unfortunately, did this for the 2016 election. 🙃 Even though I was told I could leave work to vote, I never would have made it home and back in a reasonable amount of time on my break. It was only myself and one other employee closing and we weren't allowed to be alone so I couldn't leave early.

Thought there was no chance in hell Trump would win so I didn't end up voting. Biggest regret. I have not and will not ever miss another election.

Yes because they are ultimately a minority and getting smaller. When more people vote they generally lose.

Actually think we might be ahead of 2020 in mail voting.

It was state senator Boscola's (D) bill and ultimately signed by Wolf (D).. It was a bipartisan bill in which state R's were initially willing to accept the no excuse required absentee voting that the D's wanted in exchange for eliminating the party line vote, amongst other things. It wasn't an R bill and the expansion of mail in voting was something the D's were pushing, not the R's.

Granted, the R's did ultimately vote for it. And a good number of D's upset with the amendments ultimately chose to not vote for it. Ironic that it's now the R's who want it deemed unconstitutional and thrown out. They claim they were "duped" and the bill doesn't represent what they voted for... Mastriano has written a couple of op-eds on the subject.

Perhaps it's not an issue that falls along a strict partisan divide but you need to look beyond just PA to GOP opinions across the board. Jeff Essmann, the Montana GOP chair didn't hold back his thoughts when his state was debating this in 2017 (long before Trump weighed in on any of this). I lived in WA state for a while and all the pushback I saw to the mail in ballots were coming from R's... and this was back in 2008ish when I was stationed there. Here's Texas AG Ken Paxton's take on the topic granted this came after 2020's general election.

There's also the issue of GOP obsession with voter ID laws which don't line up well with any sort of mail-in ballot which dates well before the 2020 election and any input from Trump sycophants.

And of course there was also this slip up to the SCOTUS, in which a GOP lawyer admits that more restrictions benefit the GOP... reducing mail-in ballots is one form of restriction although maybe the PA GOP wasn't in on the game in 2019 when they ultimately voted for Act 77 before turning on it.

>Mastriano winning would be a "flee the state" level event for my boyfriend and I

That's what I was commenting on.

And you're one of those people that makes shit up from whole cloth.

I never mentioned Oz, and never in the hell said I was rooting for him.

The annoying as fuck people are those like you who cannot focus on a comment without putting your own ingrained beliefs into your next comment when it has no bearing.

You literally got mad because I called out Fettermans fake working man shtick. It caused you so much grief that you had to make up a lie about what I said to make your fragile ego feel better about a politician.

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Go find a serious post where I rooted for Oz, not one where is was playing devils advocate or being outright sarcastic.

Question: if you received a mail in ballot but did not fill it out or send it, do you need to bring it with you to vote like a commenter above is stating?

I received one automatically as did my partner (i think because we did in 2020) but since we had issues with mail in for the primaries, we're both voting in person

> kennedy getting elected would mean that the Vatican would run the United States.

if i were a clever man, i would make a joke about the holy see running scotus with roe v wade being overturned, but i am not a clever man.

Unfortunately folks Fetterman has no chance since the last and the only debate. It is unfortunate for him . I believe the guy would work and represent the poor but realistically his performance was in question. OZ is highly qualified for the position but the question: is he going to serve the poor ?

> openly courting the antisemitic vote

I’m just gonna write this cause I never have before.

I grew up on Pennsyltuckey. Almost everyone from my former life is a hardcore Trump fan and a Christian extremist.

I cannot for the life of me understand how/why these people simp so hard for the state of Israel while at the time being openly anti-Semitic. Did I miss something? Are they just idiots?

What are Oz’s qualifications for being a US senator? What government experience does he have? Or familiarity or personal stake in the state of Pennsylvania?

Anecdotally living on the west coast I know folks that didn't go out to vote because of early projections from the east coast. It was more common in the past where you might have to wait in line for an hour or two in lousy weather, but most folks I know now do early voting.

If you live in PA, you must bring your mail in ballot with you, or you will have to vote provisional. It will still count as long as you haven’t sent in your mail in ballot, but it will take a few more steps.

Bring everything associated with the mail in ballot to the polls and ask them to cancel it so can you vote on a regular ballot. If you’re missing a piece, it’s not the end of the world, just ask for a provisional ballot.

(If I was the commenter above you you referenced, oops. Still, it’s the very first FAQ here https://www.vote.pa.gov/Voting-in-PA/Pages/Mail-and-Absentee-Ballot.aspx)

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Give me a break. We have managed to improve all processes in this world during my lifetime except voting. It’s worse. And it’s by design in case you aren’t clever enough to see that.

Yeah, a week before the election and it wasn't made into a big deal. Oprah spawned Oz. She's much more culpable than not.

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This made my shitty mood about the dread of these elections slightly less shitty. thank you for that

Well for starters he can speak in complete sentences

Trump says he's announcing his run on Nov 15, we'll have 6 beautiful days of no campaigning

Thank god....the dreams...the nightmares....they are finally over....

Regardless of the outcome, I hope Fetterman takes a while to rest. He deserves it

I never understood the reason to rush, I mean election day is in November, and they don't go into office until January. Most likely we will know basically all winners by Wednesday afternoon. Is that not fast enough?

1st vote comes in

1 R. 0 D

Chants of 'Stop the Count!' echo in the distance...

I couldn't care less if you just want to throw away your vote. That's your choice.

I called you annoying because of how you present yourself -- so let us be clear on that. Kthanks.

>What changed with Trump is that he actively saw voting by mail as a way of creating chaos in the midst of a pandemic, knowing that by discouraging his supporters from voting that way there would be a larger disparity than usual between in-person voting and mail in ballots.

I don't think that Trump is capable of this level of calculation.