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FarLeftGoon t1_j1t77u4 wrote

This is crazy I’m from Los Angeles and I’m interested in moving to Pittsburgh. I hate hot weather , been in it my whole life But why are people leaving ?

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greentea1985 t1_j1t7vi1 wrote

People aren't leaving. It's more due to deaths outpacing births. A lot of portions of PA got hit bad during the economic collapses of the 70s-80s, so there are a lot of places where you have a lot of elderly, some baby boomers, and young people leaving. Pittsburgh reversed the trend, but there is a noticeable absence of Gen X and younger boomers in the region, due to that generation getting pushed out due to the lack of jobs. Steelers nation became a nationwide thing because of how many people left when the steel industry collapsed. Covid nailed the elderly severely and they are just old and dieing naturally.

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drewbaccaAWD t1_j1tbtrp wrote

It still gets plenty hot/humid here in the summer.. spring is wet, fall is nice, winter is cold. Just fair warning and I say this as someone who lived in San Diego for a couple of years.

If you don't mind the increased rainfall, the thunderstorms are fun.

There's no mass exodus.. I moved back here from Seattle and a pair of friends moved back from San Fran. Another couple of friends moved down to DC for school... there's a healthy flow back and forth. Also had an uncle/aunt and two kids move back from Tahoe, another uncle/aunt and three kids move back from Lake County, CA.. one of those kids married a woman who moved here from San Diego. It's not like there's some net outflow, many people who leave find their way back but at the same time I still have three high school friends from PA living in LA because that's where they found work.

The decline is mostly high deaths and low births; the population here is fairly old overall.

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IWANNAKNOWWHODUNIT t1_j1usizn wrote

Since you’ve lived in Seattle, how is the gloomy and wet weather like in Pittsburgh compared to Seattle?

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Nite_Boat t1_j1vakqa wrote

I've spent some time in Seattle and now am in Pittsburgh and I'd say the frequency of gloomy and wet weather is comparable betweent the two cities, with hotter more humid summers in Pittsburgh. Very cloudy here often, in fact i think it *might be the cloudiest city in the U.S. (or in the top 3 IIRC)

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drewbaccaAWD t1_j1wf2ms wrote

It's gloomy and wet but it's a different sort of gloomy and wet. In Pittsburgh you get downpours and thunderstorms while Seattle is more of an endless haze for months at a time. In Pittsburgh an umbrella is useful while in Seattle it wouldn't make much of a difference.

Another big difference is that Pittsburgh in January will have its fair share of blue skies even if it's cold while in Seattle it's just grey from November until sometime in May. I first moved to Seattle in December and my wife never once saw Mount Rainer until late April or early May because it was always hidden by clouds. The summers, generally May into October, tend to have few clouds and mostly blue skies while the temperature hangs around a moderate 70°-ish for most of that (but with an occasional heat wave). Likewise the winter months tend to stay in the 30° area and rarely dip down low for extended periods.

Overall the total gloom between Pittsburgh and Seattle is similar but it's more sporadic in Pittsburgh and a bit bunched together in Seattle. Plus this is further exaggerated by Seattle being further north so those bright blue summer days last longer and those dark dreary winter days have even less day time light.

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Edmeyers01 t1_j1we6zr wrote

Moving from San Diego to Pittsburgh! I loved it in Pittsburgh, but I’d do heavy research just in case you don’t love it like we did, but it’s got a lot to offer and is super cheap.

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LowLetttuce6 t1_j1wkfug wrote

Because it’s cold and gloomy. Winters are long there. That’s why I left at least.

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