Submitted by mckzach t3_10jieut in pittsburgh
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mckzach OP t1_j5kky39 wrote
Generally, a chart or table of any kind has some kind of order to it (alphabetized, numeric, chronological, etc.). Her’s have no such order whatsoever. Ugh.
James19991 t1_j5kq4ni wrote
It looks like it's in alphabetical order by county, even though the county isn't noted in the graphic.
[deleted] t1_j5kvguo wrote
Still makes no sense/isn't practical. A map with data overlayed would've been much more useful and appropriate.
James19991 t1_j5l1zcr wrote
I agree with that
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5l29j0 wrote
And stock prices should be ordered by stock price, correct?
[deleted] t1_j5lbdpn wrote
Completely different set of data deserving of its own way of presentation. Sort tickers by alphabetical order, sort by value, etc. Tables are easy to manipulate.
The purpose of the table here though is to list snow total, and show that the northern areas got more snow. But not everyone knows where these suburbs are, and there's no obvious rhyme or reason to their order. A map with overlayed data would make it obvious that there was more snow to the north, even if you didn't know where these listed areas are.
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5ll6ft wrote
And it represented it perfectly. And not always northern areas get more snow. So you assumption is incorrect. Are familiar with conception of gradient? Yeah, it's a math conception but it's heavily used in meteorology. Very often days are presented to reflect gradient of something. And sometimes color is used to reflect gradients.
[deleted] t1_j5logn9 wrote
>And sometimes color is used to reflect gradients.
Just furthers my point - a map, be it color-coded or not, with snowfall totals overlayed would better show the gradient. Numbers in a table don't show how weather changed across a region if you have no reference points (that is to say, if you don't know where these places are, the numbers are pretty meaningless). It'd be fine for logging data for reference, but in this instance there were better choices for sharing that information.
Edit: this is an old article but the thumbnail shows the general idea of what I'm talking about
https://www.wtae.com/amp/article/pittsburgh-weather-snow-total-projections/38769632
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5m4he0 wrote
Nope, you are making too many assumptions. Data on the table shows everything. Taking into account how weather models wor and it discrete nature tables or N-Dimensional matrices table are very natural in this area.
Significant-Nail-987 t1_j5nd0j5 wrote
But also she didn't make the graphic. That's someone else's job. In the off chance she did make the graphic itnhas to go through someone else meaning there were problem regulations in place resulting in it. But more than likely she's just the messenger.
teetee34563 t1_j5l6dn7 wrote
What kind of comment is this? This chart is most equatable to the market cap of a company which is often ordered by value.
If this chart was showing volume of snow per city without accounting for area your comment might be funny
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5lm06m wrote
It's normal content -- when you following your portfolio you look at sliding window of particular stock(s) behavior trying to find moment when to sell and when to buy. And does not matter if data represented in a graphical format or as a table.
teetee34563 t1_j5ln53d wrote
Not that your comparison of weather to stocks is valid but have you ever heard of a stock heat map? There are many ways to visualize different types of data and using a map to visual weather is hardly controversial.
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5m9ekx wrote
It is absolutely valid because it's about data representation. And it depends on purpose of this particular data reforestation. And your (and only your) assumption is that purpose of this particular case is to show that North got more snow then South. And like I pointed out this is not always the case. So you are introducing a big no-no to data representation - - inconsistencies. While country order is always consistent.
teetee34563 t1_j5mcouz wrote
I made no such argument or assumption. I just brought to light that your snarky stock market comment was not a fair comparison.
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5vxrp7 wrote
It looks like your ability of abstracting is pretty low. 😋 I both cases those are Time series (you cannot represent accumulation without it). In case you have cumulative function, in another it is either simple f(x) =x or average skidding window. So comparison is very fair.
[deleted] t1_j5knq1g wrote
What got me is she went west hills, north/northwest, veered off to the extreme northeast, then the northern counties, and back down to a random spot in a southern area.
(Relative to downtown Pittsburgh)
Plus who calls it "Carnot-Moon"?
IClight69 t1_j5kv62q wrote
Dating apps.
kistner t1_j5kodg6 wrote
Alphabetical first by county, then by municipality
TotalJagoff t1_j5ko50i wrote
Ah, ok, I see. Thank you!
Ok-Recording2620 t1_j5mmhut wrote
If you don’t like her dress tou can just say it
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5l24kz wrote
And one of them is natural order of recording/creation. Nothing wrong with it. It's called time series.
PGHxplant t1_j5kkrch wrote
It's all one huge conspiracy by Big Toilet Paper and Big Dairy. Don't get whitepilled.
brutustyberius t1_j5wlzgz wrote
I thought is was the French Toast lobby.
CARLEtheCamry t1_j5le1m9 wrote
I'm imagining Charlie Day taking these numbers and trying to extrapolate out which neighborhood doesn't get snow
ballsonthewall t1_j5kjr3p wrote
Measured snowfall does not necessarily reflect what's left on the ground after the event is complete.
sr214 t1_j5ksnqk wrote
Who dresses her?
arguchik t1_j5ku82x wrote
Her look today reminds me of Marlena from Days of Our Lives in like...1988.
Ok-Twist921 t1_j5l329u wrote
Lmao she looks like she’s about to get possessed like in the 90s too
sr214 t1_j5kxp7c wrote
More like Little House On The Prairie.
colawars t1_j5kwt55 wrote
The choir director. She even looks like she's singing.
sr214 t1_j5kxs78 wrote
Lol. She does!
Inner-Figure5047 t1_j5lx6gf wrote
That was the confusing part for me as well. Looks like she left her much older spouse's high school reunion where she was the HOTTEST smoke show in the room ... To real quick just enthusiastically inform the public about some snow that happened.
gracefulnesto t1_j5lxnl5 wrote
Is this the same idiot posting about how much they hate Pittsburgh and the weather?
hypotenoos t1_j5kmqqv wrote
Hmm looking outside between yesterday and this morning and I’d say 2-2.5” tops about 7 miles from Butler.
Jumpy-Natural4868 t1_j5kmzdb wrote
This is the type of weather reporting we need more of.
James19991 t1_j5kqpau wrote
It looked like there was close to an inch and a half in Bellevue before it began to melt. Places in far Western Allegheny County, along with beaver and Butler Counties got in on a heavier band of snow yesterday evening that largely missed the actual city limits and points east. Just to explain why totals were so much higher there than closer to the city.
Sufficient-Wait2205 t1_j5n2be2 wrote
let the poor woman live
chad4359 t1_j5kllgb wrote
Always nice to see Cecil checking in
Agreeable_Context_74 t1_j5kr32m wrote
That dress is godawful.
[deleted] t1_j5kt79p wrote
“What is that, Dacron?”
[deleted] t1_j5knq3b wrote
TIL there’s a space in New Castle
Snoo-35041 t1_j5kwe4i wrote
ElectronicDiver2310 t1_j5m4tzr wrote
I am very familiar with vectors in general and gradients in particular. Try to represent 3D gradient on weather map.
awfuleverything t1_j5mtat2 wrote
That’s what you get when you ask an opera singer to do the weather.
WoodpeckerFar9804 t1_j5n05re wrote
Ha!
TotalJagoff t1_j5kk3iz wrote
Honest question, what's confusing about a list of places and the amount of snow they received? What am I missing?