Submitted by [deleted] t3_10nkyql in pittsburgh
sparrowmint t1_j69nuko wrote
Reply to comment by nesquiksand2 in Any protests/demonstrations planned? by [deleted]
It was all over the news on Fox News last night too, even on Hannity and Tucker and all that. A person could only avoid it if they watch or read literally zero news.
Cohomology_ t1_j69toer wrote
Bingo. Kiddos and work keep me too busy
burritoace t1_j69tx72 wrote
A good reason for you to avoid commenting at all
Eubadom t1_j69zhwq wrote
Yeah. I can't imagine giving my opinion on something then admitting I have zero knowledge of the situation.
Cohomology_ t1_j6aaa3m wrote
I formed my opinion (media and Americans at large get selectively angrier at police brutality instances depending on the racial makeup of those involved) on events prior to this one. Ex: look up tony timpa. White guy who had a similar incident to George Floyd. No one cared, seemingly.
Eubadom t1_j6afc69 wrote
Yeah seemingly. Has any recent incident sparked anything close to George Floyd, regardless of the races of people involved? George Floyd was a perfect storm of circumstances to cause civil unrest. I'm pretty sure if that girl's video didn't hit social media in the middle of the lockdown it would have been swept under the rug and forgotten about like most police murders.
Cohomology_ t1_j6andz9 wrote
Yup it was a perfect storm but besides George Floyd we all probably know names of multiple black folks murdered by cops and probably like 0 white folks. Given the statistics on such events it is clear the media has a bias in one direction. Fear and anger generates clicks and revenue, and making things seem like some sort of police race war helps generate the fear and anger.
One example that sticks out to me is a man who was running from cops and killed himself with a gun running into target. The cops caught up to him and tried to help. People on Twitter posted the videos of them standing next to him, and within minutes the target was looted and destroyed because people just assumed what happened. The genesis of these skewed perceptions is the media.
NovelAuntieGin t1_j6b0alu wrote
>The genesis of these skewed perceptions is the media.
That's not true. The media generally only picks up on these stories when the community forces them to. The murder occurred on Jan 7th. Memphis authorities didn't decide to fire or charge the murderers until after they found out that there was video of the whole incident that was outside of their control.
There is absolutely nothing unusual about what they did. We all know it, especially the KKKops. We're only hearing about it because there was video outside of their control. They only fired and charged the murderers because they knew the video was about to be released.
chad4359 t1_j6aq7sf wrote
Daniel Shaver is the only white guy I know off the top of my head and honestly I had to look up his name cause I just remember him as that pest control guy the cops shot
NovelAuntieGin t1_j6b25ck wrote
He's not the only one. There are stats by race and other factors on police killing people.
If you're a KKKop, you're roughly 8 - 12% more likely to kill a white person than a black one. But white people make up over 70% of the population. If you're a Black person, you're something like 400% as likely to get killed by a KKKop than if you're white.
If you're a young, Black male, you're many times more likely to be stopped, searched, charged, convicted, arrested, assaulted, killed, and/or imprisoned than if you're a young white male.
The usual KKKopsucker response to this is that the young Black men are the ones committing all the crime. But that doesn't hold up either.
We only have stats on closed cases. KKKops only ever close about 1 in 3 serious crime cases. And a whole lot of those few who they arrest and charge turn out to be false charges. That's why we have The Innocence Project.
chad4359 t1_j6b5ttn wrote
I see you couldn't name one though. Maybe if you weren't so married to your k key you could have. Oh well.
aboutsider t1_j6cl7ub wrote
No, we know those names because BLM organizations have made sure to keep those names near the surface. That didn't just happen because of "the media". It happened because one very loud and influential organization who used the media made it happen. As much as I see white folks bitching about how no one cares about police shootings of white people, I never see them do anything but bitch about it. You don't even know what's going on in the news but feel utterly convinced that you're some expert on how the media is tricking us with racism! Hahaha!
burritoace t1_j6b1ynd wrote
Black people are vastly more likely to be killed by the police than whites, but there are also more white than black people in America. If you gave enough of a shit to think about this for more than a second it would become quite clear. If you're not willing to do that, then shut the fuck up
Cohomology_ t1_j6b27s9 wrote
Statistics is a tough field. Causality, confounding variables, statistical significance, etc.
chad4359 t1_j6b73sp wrote
When raw numbers support their point they use them (people of color killed by police) and when per Capita numbers support their point they use them (southern states have more gun violence than Chicago, LA or Baltimore). It all depends on the narrative.
Cohomology_ t1_j6b7dmo wrote
Haha yes indeed!
chad4359 t1_j6bdn3z wrote
Don't forget that these are the same people that accept every single union except the police union
Cohomology_ t1_j6bjz8g wrote
End the teachers and police unions. Implement universal healthcare. IMHO.
chad4359 t1_j6blmxv wrote
Plenty of other state and county public sector unions that need folding up as well.
burritoace t1_j6bas3i wrote
You're full of shit as usual. Doesn't seem like you understand the basic statistical concepts here, and you're no less engaged in forming a narrative than anyone else.
chad4359 t1_j6bbwad wrote
Please feel free to prove either of my claims wrong, I mean it should be easy according to you. Give me the southern city that has more raw gun deaths than the cities I listed or show me higher per Capita white vs people of color deaths by police.
burritoace t1_j6bflpk wrote
I'm not interested in your bullshit attempt to change the subject but the facts of police killings are utterly clear. Approximately twice as many white people are killed by police than black people, but black people make up a much smaller proportion of the American population. The only person playing fast and loose with the statistics here is you, and your half-assed caveats illustrate that pretty well. In this comment you are doing exactly the thing you just complained about, lol.
Cohomology_ t1_j6drijv wrote
Pro tip: Google "conditional probability"
chad4359 t1_j6bgf5h wrote
Lol, what a joke. Next you'll be telling me how every union except the police union is necessary and perfect.
burritoace t1_j6bgpv3 wrote
Damn you are really flailing
chad4359 t1_j6bj2s5 wrote
LOL
aboutsider t1_j6clfy4 wrote
No, and that's such a stupidly obvious deflection.
burritoace t1_j6bauv3 wrote
Nobody needs your garbage excuses
Cohomology_ t1_j6bbpn3 wrote
I could teach you. But I have to charge.
burritoace t1_j6bf6il wrote
Fuck off
chad4359 t1_j6bji2v wrote
As always, some great discourse from burrito boy
aboutsider t1_j6cli6p wrote
Hahaha, yeah about as enlightening as LOL or deflections about police unions.
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