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Ok-Carpet-2422 t1_jd8s11q wrote

Fed hill is not what you think it is. Only people who think they’re in the Sopranos frequent on the weekends - They live outside of providence. The locals that live there go to Dunkin D

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dzoni-kanak t1_jd8x4ua wrote

Yeah, there isn't enough year round foot traffic to sustain coffee shops. I've seen a couple try and fold, but the summer is the only boom time. Rents are cheaper and more people live closer to Broadway and the couple cafes there have their following.

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Mountain_Bill5743 t1_jdb0hm7 wrote

Absolutely. Not only that, but with more work from home the 6am demand has to be even worse than the market was before covid (which wasn't very big for this niche). You don't have the Boston commuters getting up super early or the early office runs looking for that timeslot. I say that as someone who works early in person and it's a total ghost town at 6am apart from the occasional dog walk.

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dzoni-kanak t1_jdb129r wrote

Good point RE: Boston commuters forgot about that.

I think not even the Cafe La France lady opens her cafe that early inside the Amtrak station. Damn, it really is only Dunks before 7 isn't it?

Maybe that Starbucks on the other side of the bridge after Fed Hill in the Hilton? But that location seems cursed since Covid.

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Mountain_Bill5743 t1_jdb5k4i wrote

I know the morning coffee market well. That Starbucks does open early like 6amish.

I get it, it would be convenient for me but it's also a total ghost town when I get to work that early, so I understand it's a financial pit.

Federal Hill has seen some early spots come and go, like Crepe Cafe, and it'd just be bad business. Even Sin tried a lot of different hours after the pandemic to see what worked best for them.

I think some people move here from more 24/7 major cities and then are bummed that there aren't many 2am eats, early spots, or 24 hour stores but like....this isn't that kind of city and the demand really isn't there.

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Previous-Bumblebee-3 t1_jdfjpy0 wrote

Have you been to Pastiche? They’ve been there forever, not even on the main Ave and they’re always a line.

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demon-dance t1_jdcwyh0 wrote

thats just not true. in fact, the majority of my friends live here or are moving here. we all drink coffee and everybody knows dunkin sucks ass. I'll only go to dunkin if I'm taking an early flight and it's the ONLY thing available. Even then, I'm gonna look hard for any alternative caffeine bc dunkin is so nasty.

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