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D-camchow t1_iv1h2cs wrote

Reply to comment by sweetener__ in Last night on America x Federal by sweetener__

We need more traffic calming infrastructure on our streets. Drivers can't be trusted to control themselves.

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josie-gg t1_iv1x4n8 wrote

or expand public transit to the point that it's just as, if not more, convenient than owning a car!

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KeepYrGlitterDry t1_iv1rgb1 wrote

This is how we get more speed bumps, which looking at a photo like this, I think we need, but when I'm commuting and go over 10 of them, it is still annoying.

So basically people can't behave like normal adults behind the wheel, and like a class in middle school, everyone gets punished for the actions of a few morons.

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D-camchow t1_iv225t1 wrote

I wouldn't mind more speed humps on certain streets but that's definitely not a fits all solution. For a street like America which has a school it might be worth it. But what I'd love to see more of would be other kinds of calming like narrower lanes or like what was done to Sycamore St.

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Mountain_Bill5743 t1_iv2usqw wrote

Can attest that people still blast through Sycamore. It's also near impossible to fit two way traffic during the winter because there is no plowing between the planters-- like near head on collisions.

I actually ripped a hole in my tire at the horribly located one at the stop sign. I had no idea as I pulled up that there was a sharp corner because nothing was planted in it for visibility.

The speed bumps around the park have really slowed down crazy speeders, though.

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sweetener__ OP t1_iv35u3o wrote

Are the planters there to help reduce speeding? Iā€™ve always wondered. I never really drove over there except to go to Hudson Street. I canā€™t imagine navigating in the snow would be great.

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Mountain_Bill5743 t1_iv484cf wrote

It's actually super hard to find any information on the planters. I'm sure places like the WBNA have a good history on it, though.

I want to say that some social media site had someone referencing that the planters were installed back when that area was more of a cut through for people speeding when it was a lower income neighborhood. Less from a neighborhood quality of life standpoint and more to diffuse presumed nefarious activities.-- I have no source on this, only a rumor.

Only in recent years has the neighborhood massively gentrified-- even the change in the past 10 has been wild. Most zoning decisions over there seemed to be exclusionary back in the day, such as the neighborhood air quality being impacted by the 6-10 connector (and subsequent toxic soil), so I'd love to know more from an official source about how and why those ended up there.

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2ears_1_mouth t1_iv5y9hy wrote

The two speed bumps added to Knight street last year made a huge dent in the number of small-pp loud car morons waking up the neighborhood. Didn't stop all of them, but definitely helped.

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JasonDJ t1_iv3fn4s wrote

Completely agree. Iā€™ve often said that roads need to feel unsafe to go over 30 on if you want people to actually slow down. ā€œTraffic calming infrastructureā€ is a much better way of saying that.

Putting automatic speed cameras in front of schools generated revenue and gets people to slow down but has little measurable effect on student safety since people are watching their speedometers more closely than the road and just slam it as soon as they are past the camera anyway.

Much better to narrow the roads (and in the process either expanding sidewalks and/or adding protected bike lanes), add more controlled intersections, add raised crosswalks, rotaries, etc.

Or just not build the new school on a fucking four lane state highway right next to the interstate. Looking at you, EP.

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