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Dopey-NipNips t1_j01setl wrote

That's how you feel. You're not a doctor

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Beebeeleen t1_j01vhce wrote

How I feel? On what grounds do you label my comments based on feeling rather than empirical observation?

Also, what doctors consider drug addiction the same at all levels to parkinson's, alzheimer's, dimentia, and schizophrenia?

You are clueless.

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Dopey-NipNips t1_j02m70a wrote

The dsm-5 literally the thing that all healthcare professionals use to define diseases

There's not levels of disease. It is or it isn't. And according to the dsm it's a disease

Now you may feel differently but nobody gives a fuck about your feelings.

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Beebeeleen t1_j02nkj8 wrote

So, cancer and aids is the same as addiction? Anything categorized as disease is the same? Do you see the error in your reasoning?

Or, let's stick to psychological diseases: are you telling me that alzheimers is the same kind of disease as addiction?

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Dopey-NipNips t1_j02oigu wrote

Of course it's not the same as alzheimers that's why it's called substance abuse disorder and not alzheimers

You said it's not a disease which you've learned through your "empirical observation" aka your feelings

Cancer is a disease. Alzheimers is a disease. Addiction is a disease

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Beebeeleen t1_j02p1g7 wrote

I said no such thing. You've been arguing against a strawman.

What I have wrote is that it is a different type of disease than say Alzheimers or schizophrenia, which is a fact.

I have also wrote in posts with others that researchers in medicine have debated whether they should continue categorizing addiction as a brain disease (or disease at all).

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=addiction+is+not+a+brain+disease&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1670952588039&u=%23p%3DksQ1XshGG6MJ

You have attempted to portray my posts as conveying "feelings." That is nonsensical. My only subjective position was directed at OP--withholding empathy from addicts (I should have been specific about the types of addicts too).

You have conveyed emotionally laden attacks and strawman arguments. Calm down and read more carefully.

There are different kinds of diseases. And the kind I mentioned are worst in every way to addiction.

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