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walkskylurker t1_j03kbtk wrote

Reply to comment by Beebeeleen in Just a person who cares by AGirlsThoughts_

Someone with poor reading comprehension might suggest the mere mention of experiencing homelessness with absolutely zero detail or context was a “sob story”. Good day to you, and I wish you luck responding to everyone who thinks your hot take is trash.

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Beebeeleen t1_j03m49b wrote

Yawn. Ask someone to explain my posts to you. You clearly suffer from poor reading comprehension. But, since you were once homeless that makes you an eternal victim worst off than even people born into third world poverty and residing in the ghetto. You need to travel more.

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walkskylurker t1_j04uepi wrote

I love how in one breath you're saying the mere mention of homelessness in one's past is akin to "eternal victimhood" and then in the very next you're describing your own past plight for the second time. Your lack of self-awareness is outstanding. You start comments by saying the word yawn like a total wiener. Lastly, if you need to tell multiple people they lack reading comprehension skills and that your comment is super nuanced and on top of it you're getting plowed with downvotes - maybe it's you. Anyway, you have fun with whatever you're doing here. You sound like a total ass and I'm thankful I don't know you in person.

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Beebeeleen t1_j085bp1 wrote

I am perplexed by this comment. Did you write it under another account or copy and paste? In my email, I received a message by another person verbatim. Then, hours later, you post the same message.

Creepy.

My responses only occur with respect to your initial message in which you mention having been homeless. In the same message, you misrepresent my initial post. Many people have done so. They claim my post is a direct attack on all homeless people. My post as written specifically states that I withhold empathy from a person exhibiting particular behaviors. That's it. Hence, you and a few others do display poor reading comprehension skills.

So I respond to you then share some of my experiences too. I did so pointing out that I (but indirectly others) have endured conditions most people here cannot fathom. Yet, the tone is not one of "victimhood." I only mention it in response to your rhetorical strategy: claim I lack some types of emotions, mention your experience to try to display your perspective as both accurate and knowledgable but also dismiss mine, and also distort my position.

Yawn. Any one of you sheltered Whites with money can come see me in Olneyville. I will be the Brown guy who made something of his life despite the hate you all direct towards my people.

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walkskylurker t1_j09rw0t wrote

Holy shit - it must be exhausting to be you.

At no point in your comments did you “reserve empathy” (how magnanimous, btw - thank god shelter beds aren’t funded by your empathy) for:

-Anyone who had to leave an abusive living situation (physical, financial, sexual) -Anyone who is a minor -Anyone who has an undiagnosed learning or cognitive disability or impairment (these things fly under the radar all the fucking time, and can appear to the ignorant as “poor decision making skills”) -Anyone who suffers from severe PTSD, which would predispose them to chemical addiction as a coping mechanism -Children of literally any of the above because not everyone has a family that can “step up”. Jesus - that shouldn’t even need to be said.

Obviously this list isn’t exhaustive in terms of reasons one might be homeless, I’m also not suggesting any of these situations are insurmountable - nor is homelessness itself. However, some of them might take more than a year to overcome. In the meantime, none of these people should freeze to death - and those are the stakes. Thankfully nobody needs to justify to you why they are hard up and have to sleep the fuck outside.

And sure - you can say “just move”, but we both know that’s disingenuous because it’s unrealistic with limited funds. Your overarching mantra seems to be “fuck you, I got mine” and that just simply comes from a place of willful ignorance. You’re ignoring and dismissing the life experiences of others, and projecting yourself and your life onto people and circumstances you know nothing about.

Also, you don’t know dick about me. My race, ethnicity, religion, other lived experiences are a mystery to you because you do not know me. Volunteering your skin color and neighborhood was an odd choice given nobody asked you, but anyway I guess hey neighbor 👋

I’m not responding to any more of your aggressively ignorant comments, so you can feel free to keep them coming or not. You keep accusing anyone who responds to you of using logical fallacies, but then you just go off the rails and try to gaslight them about shit you just said two comments up. I’m probably also going to block you because you’re profoundly annoying and this response is already time I can’t get back.

Stay fresh out there

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Beebeeleen t1_j09wrgb wrote

I am a very productive person, so I do get exhausted. You’ll be happy to know that I get sufficient rest at night. Isn’t it the same for most responsible and productive people?

My initial comment explicitly states I have “little” empathy for a certain type of person before explicitly stating I do lend empathy towards another type. Please note the key word is “little,” which means some not none. Yet, my clear and concise prose evades your grasp; hence, I have begged you to get someone to help you understand my simple posts.

I'll cite myself below:

"Get a job; get a place to live. If you can't get either in a certain state then you got to move where you can get both. I have little empathy for people who make poor life choices then continue to make them then seek others foot the bill."

In the text above, I do not make a claim against "the homeless." I do not collapse all people without homes as if all their cases were the same. You and others have done that, but not I. I explicitly state I have LITTLE empathy (a better choice of word is compassion) for a person who makes poor life choices, seeks to remain in place, and seeks others to foot their bills--in other words, someone who is able-bodied, employable, unwilling to make better life choices, neglects responsibility but seeks others pay for their daily expenses. That is a specific type of person. Yet, you and the other raging morons on this thread have misconstrued an explicit statement about a particular type of person to mean "the homeless."

If local or federal authorities provide shelters for people in need, these refuges are funded with tax dollars. All people who pay taxes contribute. I include myself among those millions of people.

You appear to misconstrue my comments as ones that seek to deny any and all funding for all homeless people. I have made no claims about funding or shelters at all. My comments only dealt with empathy, which is the ability to understand or share another’s feelings. I only played along with OP’s choice of words, when I think the better word would be compassion. OP appears to mistakenly believe that the local or state government must allow people to live wherever they choose. That is unrealistic and not grounded in law. Hence, my comments “get a job; pay rent” and “go where you can work; go where you can pay rent.”

This is not a novel approach. And some of the poorest working-class people do follow the work trail until they can settle. Ask me how I know.

You wrote a very long list of different scenarios. You for some odd reason believe I am against all people in those cases, which for the most part—I admit to finding your posts insufferable and boring so I kind of have to sip coffee to get through them—fall outside the parameters of the type of person I withhold compassion for.

By writing that list of scenarios, you are trying to portray me as dismissing all those lumped homeless cases together. Again, you seriously misunderstand my point.

And moving is not difficult for individuals. Have you ever hanged out around a greyhound station? People of the lowest income brackets travel across country. Ask me how I know. It is much more difficult for households to do so.

Finally, I can tell you are White. Most of the people posting on this Reddit page are White. You are no different. Spare me the social justice rhetoric of “lived experience,” which is redundant since an experience itself is lived.

The only ignorant person here is you. Do you even know what a logical fallacy is? I doubt it because you just mentioned it without pointing one out.

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