Submitted by Cycledrome t3_zlwqgb in providence
Comments
Far-Soup5169 t1_j07vipo wrote
If anyone is interested, the ACLU has a 13-page write up to summarize their concerns.
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/flock_1.pdf
rustybullrake t1_j080fde wrote
>Already, the photos taken by Flock’s ALPR cameras capture more than just license plates; the photos are used to create what the company calls a searchable "Vehicle Fingerprint."
>Using a "proprietary machine learning algorithm," the company says, it gathers "vehicle make, type, color, license plate, state of the license plate, covered plates, missing plates, and unique features like roof racks and bumper stickers."
>Presumably that would allow searches for all vehicles that include a particular political bumper sticker, enabling people to be targeted based on the exercise of their First Amendment-protected free expression rights.
Neat.
heloguy1234 t1_j08ivgk wrote
How about these assholes spend a little time fixing the school system.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j08suut wrote
the city has zero control at this point.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j08thrv wrote
I'm picturing a cop who gets made fun of by a car that drives past him when he's on foot. He can't get the plate but he does remember a few features so he goes searching for a Toyota Prius with an "I tomato my local farmer" sticker, a faded Obama 2012 sticker, and a the Coexist religious symbol sticker. He hits enter on his search, gleefully awaing his result so he knows who he can hassle later but then the look of joy turns to horror as he pulls up 15,356 results that match his search.
frombeyondthegravez t1_j08umy7 wrote
Fix the fucking roads ffs
mhb t1_j09r5f1 wrote
Intriguing. Any references?
kbd77 t1_j09ry8v wrote
No official sources, but someone on this sub posted about it a while ago so I decided to try it when I got one a few months ago. Nothing happened. It’s not on my record or anything and there are no late charges because, again, they can’t actually enforce anything since it’s a private contractor operating on behalf of the city.
Previous_Floor t1_j09z8yp wrote
These are Flock cameras. They are not speed cameras, and you don't get tickets.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j09zxhj wrote
These cameras aren’t for traffic enforcement and don’t issue tickets
Thac0 t1_j0a071x wrote
What are they for then? That’s even more ominous
[deleted] t1_j0a0hfc wrote
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j0a0o77 wrote
There’s a whole article at the top of you click the picture that answers this.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j0a0ytq wrote
Those are completely different cameras.
Dopey-NipNips t1_j0b4gvt wrote
Funny how when the defund movement started, the police response was a work slowdown. Since the spiteful slowdown of enforcement we've only gotten safer 😂
All we need to have historically low crime is to get rid of the dickhead ppd
Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j0bb60p wrote
The ACLU is a former shell of itself… but the concerns are valid. Hopefully a more legitimate organization can write up an opinion.
degggendorf t1_j0bir8s wrote
Oh whew so the point is only mass surveillance by a private corporation. Glad we have nothing to worry about then.
Previous_Floor t1_j0bq4iu wrote
I'm not in favor of these Flock cameras. Not in the least. Just mentioned that because some person is saying you don't have to pay the tickets (there are no tickets; they are not speed cameras).
LouSpudol t1_j0br6by wrote
It’s not about fixing anything. It’s about generating more revenue for the state and lining the pockets of corrupt politicians.
grem111 t1_j0bt3a7 wrote
Lol i appreciate you finding the silver lining here
silverhammer96 t1_j0bv7gr wrote
My grandmother was a contracted educational advisor for the city of Providence about 3 years ago. She made a comprehensive plan that would allow Providence to properly evaluate the schools beyond just basic test scoring and finding metrics on the needs of individual students and teachers, and properly evaluating teacher performance. This plan would have been low cost and cause the firing of very few teachers, just the ones that really need to be. This would also be directly sent to the state and distributed to every other district. The Providence school district reviewed it and gave back incredible reviews saying it was nearly perfect and even the teacher’s union was ok with it. But after all that, that they wouldn’t be moving forward with it. Why? Well because they don’t really feel like it. Kids are graduating, so why make any changes?
the_falconator t1_j0bzjw4 wrote
I like the way they do it in other cities, where the license plate reader is on the police car and it alerts the officer in real time if there is a care that is stolen or wanted for an amber alert or whatever. Then at least it's just streamlining what information the officer can see from where he is and information he can look up from the database. With street mounted cameras you get the surveillance but nobody to act on it if it picks up a hit.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j0cxfkb wrote
There's not really an evidence to support a work slowdown. Crime spiked but there was also a ton of other factors that could explain that.
I don't even want this to sound like I'm defending the police locally or nationally. I think they've been consistently ineffective. If anything, I think they're too stupid to come up with such a plan themselves.
Dopey-NipNips t1_j0cyhho wrote
Which is it, crime spiked because of a slowdown or a slowdown never happened
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j0d22pr wrote
There is zero evidence of a slowdown. It's a theory without any evidence or any real evidence. It also runs counter to basic logic.
Crime did spike slightly in the wake of the pandemic and everything else in 2020, but a " police slowdown" isn't really a good or logical answer "why"
Homicide rates don't shot up by 20% just cause cops are doing their job slower or less or whatever.
Dopey-NipNips t1_j0djb7v wrote
Counter to basic logic 😂
[deleted] t1_j0erp05 wrote
[deleted]
yestermorrowday t1_j0f8plm wrote
You’re right, but this is worse.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_j07perb wrote
I don't personally care but it is pretty funny how absolutely none of the initial plans announced and public comment period referenced adding this many cameras.