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BingBong022 t1_j449zcn wrote

Lmao 😂 🤣. How about the business owners pay their employees a living wage instead of expecting customers to do it. In Europe restaurant employees actually make a living wage because the laws demand it. Here in the states it's the only industry along with commission only gigs that the business owner can pay under the minimum wage and outsource it to consumers.

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CharlieRobin00 t1_j44a9z0 wrote

Sure but until then you should follow the custom and make sure they're paid for their work or stay in.

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BingBong022 t1_j44alrd wrote

Just as the lobbying powers want you to think and act.

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CharlieRobin00 t1_j44ek5d wrote

K, you'll get paid $4 an hour at your job until the government acts and changes the law. Seems fair.

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Proclaimer23 t1_j44jkj5 wrote

I expect you to be on the forefront, calling your reps and attending committee hearings trying to get legislation passed then, right?

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j44dzqp wrote

If you want to take a stand about the economics of the bar and restaurant industry, you’re more than welcome to not participate in it as a customer and stay home.

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lestermagnum t1_j44b4of wrote

In Europe servers and bartenders make a “living wage” the same way $15 an hour is a “living wage” here. They usually do have sweet government mandated benefits though.

It’s now standard to tip 10% - 15% in restaurants in Europe.

https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/tipping-in-europe-when-how-much-to-tip/

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BingBong022 t1_j44bogw wrote

Not in my experience of living in Spain, France, Denmark, Croatia, Poland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania

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lestermagnum t1_j44cbim wrote

And not in the woman in the article’s experience in America. Being cheap is universal I guess.

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WeShineUnderOneSun OP t1_j44ctm8 wrote

When the restaurant owners increase pay, who do you think the cost will fall on? Thats right the customer with higher prices. I'm not saying it shouldn't be considered, but it's more complicated than you think. What it breaks down to is, here in the US we tip decently for the service.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j44hq1c wrote

Shifting the cost isn’t really my concern. I just think not a lot of service industry workers necessarily even want to ditch the system. If you’re gonna reform it, set some shift hourly minimum where a server isn’t fucked on a completely dead night and going home with it not worth it.

A huge part of the appeal of service industry jobs is how much you can make in the right gig on a normal to great night where the people who do it a lot make full time money in way less hours.

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RandomChurn t1_j45w599 wrote

>the people who do it a lot make full time money in way less hours

So true. As a young artist it's why I chose it -- least amount of hours worked, maybe 20 / week, allowing the most free time. Plus I liked bringing cash money home in my pocket every night rather than having to wait for a paycheck.

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