Submitted by freetimerva t3_11dbjvx in rva
One of the few fresh food options down there has burned down. Crews were still battling the flames as of now.
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NobleScreech t1_ja7z1m4 wrote
Fantastic. I guess Carytown Kroger it is. At least I have a car. Feel terrible for the people with limited transportation who rely on this market.
D_Robb t1_ja81bjr wrote
No need to cross the river. Theres a few Food Lions (Hull St Rd, Jahnke, Forest Hill) a Kroger near Chippenham Hospital, and Publix/Target/Walmart all on Forest Hill.
Shoot, the Lombardy Kroger is closer to Manchester than the Carytown if you still feel like dealing with traffic across the river.
NobleScreech t1_ja81xxe wrote
Very true on Lombardy Kroger. Their produce is just trash, so I generally opt to add a few minutes and go to Carytown Kroger. The others work out to be the same, if not longer than just going to Carytown (15-17 minutes). It would be lovely to have something clean and within a 5 minute drive, but I’m not holding my breath.
D_Robb t1_ja84m9a wrote
I work by the Lombardy Kroger and still drive to the Publix on Forest Hill even driving past the Food Lions. But I don't mind the drive. I was hoping with all the new apartments that something would turn into a grocery store, but nope. Manchester Market is just a convience store and I think that's as close as we'll get.
Charlesinrichmond t1_ja7zjk8 wrote
What about Kroger on Midlo and Chippenham?
yungpastel t1_ja7vpxc wrote
well richmond is notorious for wanting small grocers out of business so it’s gonna be crazy to see where this will go
sleevieb t1_ja7tsa5 wrote
Wow.
Now there really is no grocery store in manchester
Charlesinrichmond t1_ja7zha5 wrote
does this count as Manchester though? I'd say Big apple counts equally. And place is actually good enough for mexican ingredients that people drive from all over the area to it
skulloctopus2023 t1_ja86gu4 wrote
King's is far closer to Manchester than Big Apple.
I feel bad for the residents that relied on King's. This is just exasperating the food dessert problem that plagues this city.
Charlesinrichmond t1_ja8g1hm wrote
it's a financial problem. The shoplifiting rate is too high for a grocery store in certain areas. We need to fix that - one way would be a financial guarantee. But the other issue is enforcement
sleevieb t1_ja8h9xo wrote
The crime killing strangling manchester is michael hildes white collar multi million dollar fraud not kids stealing candy bars.
freetimerva OP t1_ja8hqnd wrote
Unfortunately, franchisees and their insurers don't factor Michael Hildes when making their decisions.
Nor do kids stealing candy bars. They mainly factor violent crime... which greater Manchester suffers from.
sleevieb t1_jadkbl1 wrote
Gentrification has its problems but buying 18 commercial properites in one area with ill gotten gains and then leaving them stuck in bankruptcy limbo is worst case scenario.
Charlesinrichmond t1_ja8jogk wrote
not true. He may be a crook, but actually did a lot for manchester. And grocery stores aren't bothered by him, trust me.
Whereas shrink bothers the hell out of them
sleevieb t1_ja9a1c0 wrote
He bought the 18 most developable properties. Built 3 or 4 into half baked concepts and promptly got locked up.
The closest he came to a grocery store was turning the most beautiful grocery store building in town into a food hall. That never finished either.
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You defending this charlatan scamster felon is all the argument I really need to make. The man is a plague on manchester and the fallout from his crimes hang over every vacant storefront like a diseased cloud.
Charlesinrichmond t1_jadbppr wrote
which relates to grocery stores how? Have you lost track of your own point?
sleevieb t1_jadk1ua wrote
the properties that could've been developed into grocery stores are owned by him from his ill gotten gains and stuck in a criminal case/bankruptcy limbo.
readthistoyourmomma t1_ja98ibv wrote
Yep. Hull Street is basically stuck in limbo thanks to them.
DustySleeve t1_ja8hv9v wrote
whats his grift?
Charlesinrichmond t1_ja8mlql wrote
appears to have stolen money from federal goverment through his mortgage brokerage
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DustySleeve t1_jaebh1v wrote
oh this is kinda familiar. idk what a reverse mortgage bond is, or really what a bond is except its not exactly what it was designed to be as i learned in civics class, but it sounds like he fucked over some banks, which who cares, but is bad because he abused ill-gotten leverage to become a super landlord with waaaay too many assets for one guy? looks like he figured this plan around the 08 housing boom n bust, so i get why rule abiding greedy flippers would be salty
sleevieb t1_jaecepu wrote
it is bad because he overpaid for the real estate and then did nothing with it. So all of the people that could have theoretically invested into that neighborhood were priced out and had to pick through worse lots.
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08 of course spread everywhere but was residential single family home focused where as hilde's fallout is commercial.
DustySleeve t1_jaehbua wrote
Oh thanks for explaining, yeah thats exactly what the area doesnt need.
Squidward_2566 t1_ja8i5rn wrote
It's always interesting to see neighborhood "boundaries" get stretched when an area becomes popular. Some real estate listings define "Church Hill" as the area where Mechanicsville Turnpike hits 64.
Charlesinrichmond t1_ja8jj2a wrote
oh totally! Look at Forest Hill, which now is basically anything between the Powhite and Manchester. Or Scott's Addition
Individual_Place_728 t1_jac7gnq wrote
Sad for the people, especially the elderly, that relied on Kings. I quit going up there because of all the drunks and bums that hang out constantly around there.
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JakeSkywalkerr t1_ja8jnrr wrote
Holy shit
ShadyAdvise t1_ja8fhcm wrote
Such a mixed bag, the only option for many food items for miles yet also the epicenter of drug trafficking. Hopefully they build a bigger mixed use store in its place and use more of their land space devoted to parking