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BureauOfBureaucrats t1_j8r5zer wrote
They’re trying another concept.
TargetDownrange t1_j8r7n3p wrote
Isn't that a thing for food delivery apps? "Secret restaurant menu's" hiding under a larger brand?
chasetwisters t1_j8r9dvk wrote
Its almost like a ghost kitchen thing. Right now theres two on Uber Eats, one called The Meltdown and the other The Burger Den, that's located at the Dennys at Broad and Dickens. This is in addition to Dennys being on there.
panopticon31 t1_j8r9z9j wrote
Because you're 1000% more likely to order a burger from "the burger den" then Denny's.
smarshall561 t1_j8rdngf wrote
My coworker has been telling me about these strange restaurants that have popped up in delivery apps that all share the same address. He's mentioned a Maggiano's To Go that he claims is unaffiliated with the actual Maggiano's but I haven't looked into it.
TheCheeseDevil t1_j8rfmkw wrote
Nice try Ian Kelley
lostspyder t1_j8rfqz2 wrote
Us vegoons are coming for you and everything you’ve ever loved,
FlailingOctane t1_j8rgo30 wrote
cool! now that they have a new name, I totally forgot that the owner is a piece of shit that sexually harasses people
coconut_sorbet t1_j8rgvle wrote
They're not fooling us.
MaryDellamorte t1_j8rh24e wrote
What are you even talking about?
lame_gaming t1_j8ri7jj wrote
vegan? i didnt know donuts were made of meat
edit: it was a joke ._.
lame_gaming t1_j8ribpa wrote
wait what
DR1LLM4N t1_j8rj0c0 wrote
They are made with milk and eggs though.
Farmerjoerva t1_j8rkn81 wrote
Well when you’re know to be a sexual predator and treat you’re employees like shit, rebranding makes sense
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8rkts4 wrote
They’ve always been mostly vegan donuts
PayneTrainSG t1_j8rkya1 wrote
I believe they're owned by the same company that owns Chili's, so there you go.
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8rkzuv wrote
I hate the ghost kitchens. It’s misleading to the consumer. But I figured this was more just to get away from bad press, but maybe they’re trying to just make what they offer more obvious? Idk
fusion260 t1_j8rlww1 wrote
Fuck, I don't know what it is, but my mouth is watering right now just reading the name "The Burger Den."
Still won't try it tho cause I know what Denny's burgers taste like. Of all the burgers I've had, they're definitely burgers.
1738dgts t1_j8rnnuy wrote
You should get too Google or old Reddit chains. Lots of messy shit with the owner Ian Kelley
iwearlederhosen t1_j8rpqvm wrote
Can someone explain how these ghost kitchens are monitored by the health department? Nothing comes up for this place when I search for it.
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https://inspections.myhealthdepartment.com/va-richmond/search?searchStr=vegan
There is one for Sugar Shack/Luther Burger though.
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I also checked the State Corporation Commission for an entity by this name, nothing. I know restaurants often have a LLC owner different than the name on the front though so that's no surprise.
DogOnABike t1_j8rps8y wrote
There was a lesbian bar named Sugar Shack where I used to live.
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_j8rs76p wrote
The new name on GrubHub IS the concept.
Lilbunneephuphu t1_j8rsaq0 wrote
Ian Kelley is a POS
jbaky t1_j8rsk3m wrote
A handful of ghost kitchens run out of S&S food marts from North and Southside, and Red Robin and TGI Fridays have ones too for sure
SaltyBarDog t1_j8rtdrq wrote
Didn't Chuck E. Cheese do that? Sold their shitty pizza under a different name.
chasetwisters t1_j8rujfy wrote
Yep. I've seen them, O'Charleys, and Hooters to name a few have these setups. I think O'Charley's was like Chucks Burgers or something. Hooters first did Hootie's Burger Bar, and now they're doing some Hot Dog thing. chicken tender thing called Chase Elliott Chicken Tenders
Turtlethymes t1_j8ruyao wrote
Yes, blame it on the vegans. 🙄
mxbike_edits t1_j8rvcnj wrote
Vegans are the ones who are deluded. 200,000 years of evolution doesn't lie.
hissing_mosquito t1_j8rwnzj wrote
Take your triggered self somewhere else.
reebokhightops t1_j8rx0pm wrote
> Of all the burgers I've had, they're definitely burgers.
This guy burgers.
jwal1992 t1_j8rx26y wrote
They also have a bad rep with GH drivers community. Might have also changed the name to trick drivers into accepting orders.
raindeerpie t1_j8rx8ce wrote
aren't donuts just sugar and bread? how are the Vegans going to ruin donuts?
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8ry80u wrote
I don’t know. I think they’re very unethical. But I think this is more of trying to avoid the name Sugar Shack if I had to guess.
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8rybcj wrote
How is it a new concept if it’s the same thing
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8rygqc wrote
No, they’re actually very hard to find without milk and eggs. I have a dairy allergy and I can’t buy donuts from anywhere unless it’s a vegan spot.
Standard_Bat_8833 t1_j8rz7a8 wrote
needsexyboots t1_j8rzcvs wrote
What do you think the “bread” is made of?
raindeerpie t1_j8s1nsc wrote
flower, water, yeast
mxbike_edits t1_j8s1o4w wrote
Y'all are too damn emotional.. y'all need some meat to make yourself more logical
raindeerpie t1_j8s1yd9 wrote
interesting. i didn't think it would be that hard to find.
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8s2vro wrote
Outside of Whole Foods and sugar shack, I’ve never seen dairy free donuts at all.
hissing_mosquito t1_j8s3vmx wrote
I do eat meat. You’re the one who came in crying to the comments because you can’t stand to see the word vegan anywhere without throwing a tantrum.
mxbike_edits t1_j8s7ous wrote
You're gonna make me cry if you keep calling me out 😭
tequilaanddeadlifts t1_j8s8ljv wrote
Ah yes, probably another way to avoid paying back his investors or any of his lawsuits
tequilaanddeadlifts t1_j8s8roj wrote
Also a strip club not far from the one that was in Florida. Was pretty funny
ryseing t1_j8s96j6 wrote
Pasqually's. They're an option locally still.
Trash_WASP t1_j8s9mrx wrote
Federal-Subject-3541 t1_j8sd5zn wrote
Note.
Oatty t1_j8se7eo wrote
I love the massive "birthday" cake donuts they make on special request. Theyre the of a pizza with any customization on top. Cant remember the cost, but wasnt terrible.
No_Maize_4607 t1_j8sen6v wrote
Don’t support them!
Far-Attitude-6395 t1_j8senm0 wrote
Yeah, they were shitty to the gluten free community too, burned a lot of bridges not caring if people got sick
1738dgts t1_j8sfnuf wrote
LLCs are midlo donuts, LB midlo, rva donuts
Charlesinrichmond t1_j8sgni8 wrote
no, they used to be good donuts for a couple of years. Then they swapped to Vegan and they became pretty bad. I don't care if the doughnuts are vegan, I cared that they went from awesome to awful.
carlsonaj t1_j8siv3d wrote
sugar shack went from being a beloved RVA institution to hiding in delivery websites because everybody knows they’re pieces of shit.
sadge.
iwearlederhosen t1_j8siyom wrote
Interesting. LB Midlo isnt active anymore, neither is RVA Donuts. Midlo Donuts seems to be.
imstillgonnaeatdairy t1_j8sk38j wrote
Your “donut” is going to be quite disgusting if it’s made only of flour, water, and yeast plus some sugar
raindeerpie t1_j8so1pl wrote
good thing i'm not a chef then
TheMightyBoofBoof t1_j8sq4tj wrote
Red Robin operates like three of them in addition to their normal restaurant.
_RetroBear t1_j8sv4hs wrote
Honestly. Its been a few years but Dennys burgers were pretty kickass. Huge fucking greasy giant hamburgers. Cooked really well and actually tasted like meat instead of char.
The8thHammer t1_j8t0b93 wrote
They aren't using a separate kitchen, it's literally just sugar shack with a different profile online. They don't need another health inspection.
LumpyEntertainment57 t1_j8t4zd2 wrote
I heard from a friend that when they would run out of the vegan donuts they would replace them with non-vegan ones and lie to their customers.
PrologueBook t1_j8t9lzw wrote
I moved out to Brooklyn from RVA in 2021. Ghost kitchens make food apps and even Google maps a nightmare.
Bodegas will register with generic names and stock images. You have to cross reference, and go to street view to verify everything.
Mikey6304 t1_j8t9tky wrote
Some of them are separate businesses that are renting kitchen space, but most are just rebrands or alternative takeout menus. Wild Burger is Buffalo Wild Wings, It's Just Wings is Chili's.
WEGCjake t1_j8tfmvo wrote
WF’s vegan donors are legit.
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8tgdn6 wrote
That would make me very very sick
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8th1ux wrote
For people saying this is a ghost kitchen and not renaming: Sugar Shack is gone and now there’s Vegan Donuts RVA with the exact same menu. It’s not a new venture, just a different title in Grubhub.
LumpyEntertainment57 t1_j8thn07 wrote
Yeah I think she said that was at the Sugar Shack on Parham. Super scummy..
piggyperson2013 t1_j8tjqv1 wrote
As others have said, it’s called a “ghost kitchen”. My partner worked at TGIFs at one point and they had a sushi ghost kitchen inside of it with a completely different name and graphic design
You could also say that Longoven now has a ghost kitchen because they opened Lost Letter within it but I also don’t quite consider that a ghost kitchen because they’re super up front about it and not trying to dupe anyone. Genuinely seems like two restaurants in one now.
GingeeBreadKnight t1_j8tldsi wrote
I wonder if this had anything to do with their poorly done Valentine’s Day (lack of) donuts. Tuesday my partner went to pick up an order he placed weeks earlier as a treat and there was a single woman working when he arrived and she was freaking out over grub hub and uber orders because they had NO donuts made and she was attempting to fill those incoming orders over the one we had placed in advance. Maybe they took their name off to stop more orders going to them? Lame. He wanted to surprise me since we had them as VCU students but they’ve fallen so far it’s so sad.
suki21693 t1_j8tpec2 wrote
How does this shitty place even stay in business? There are better donuts out there, sold by actual nice people.
RedDirtBiker t1_j8ttprk wrote
Charles Entertainment Cheeses pizza FUCKS
lame_gaming t1_j8u0981 wrote
and when was the last time you had a meat donut?
Thiccassmomma t1_j8u4die wrote
They are putting lipstick on a pig 🙄
gringo-star t1_j8ugibo wrote
People should really just stop using delivery apps which encourage this kind of shady behavior. Call the restaurant and place an order for pickup. More of your money goes to the restaurant and you don’t allow these “ghost kitchens” to flourish.
xdisappointing t1_j8uim0e wrote
My wife found a band aid in her pack of donuts last year, owner offered free donuts for a year, wasn’t really interested in what they had to offer after that.
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j8unjf4 wrote
You’re right but this isn’t a ghost kitchen. It’s just them renaming themselves on the app.
adho123456 t1_j8v28ae wrote
Vegan washing .. so sad
LionelHutzinVA t1_j8v7dv9 wrote
A new Sugar Shack just opened in Brandermill. Was kind of surprised that he was actually expanding again
LionelHutzinVA t1_j8v7jl9 wrote
Maple bacon donuts are a thing
jwal1992 t1_j8xqup2 wrote
Doubt Brandermill is the the kind of community that cares whether or not the owner is a PoS.
jwal1992 t1_j8xr34j wrote
Coattailing their reputation from seven years ago.
jwal1992 t1_j8xr8zv wrote
-69? -nice
LionelHutzinVA t1_j8xxsyd wrote
True. May actually be a positive as far as some are concerned
ZestaSarcasticNW t1_j928ctx wrote
IHOP is one now too, thought I was ordering some Mexican Food but got an IHOP Bag and almost flagged my Delivery Driver back was so confused.
JoonSquad_ t1_j93ev6f wrote
I'm gonna ask you a very dumb question, but I have an allergy that kind of works this way so does "cooked" or "baked" dairy have a lesser effect on you than like straight milk?
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j93wjiu wrote
That sounds more like it might be an intolerance tbh. Allergies and intolerances are two different things as I understand it. I’m not an expert or doctor, but I can’t have even a small hint of dairy in anything or it’ll have brutal effects on me.
JoonSquad_ t1_j93xjjk wrote
Mine is an allergy, though not an anaphylactic one. It's OAS, a subset of hay fever, and it causes my mouth and throat to itch after eating raw fruits and vegetables. Some stuff, like bananas and avocados, even makes my throat swell. However, if the food is cooked or processed, I can eat it just fine. Wasn't sure if that was a thing with any other allergies though.
xZOMBIETAGx OP t1_j94ifqo wrote
Oh I see. That doesn’t sound fun at all, I’m sorry. That’s cool that you can still enjoy some of those things if they’re prepared a certain ways. It’s a total no go for me.
mxbike_edits t1_j8r4u3d wrote
Vegans ruining everything