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ItalianMineralWater t1_ja8d0ta wrote

I don’t disagree but the city data is worth looking at because the significant population decline is a phenomena that the other cities mentioned haven’t seen. And - these threads that are concerned with new development are typically focused on the city rather than the surrounding burbs. But yes - our political definition of the city hurts comparisons to other places, especially outside VA.

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Charlesinrichmond t1_ja8j6xv wrote

fwiw Portland has had minor population declines (2003) now, and I think post war as have other major cities. I think it's interesting but not major.

And our last census was an undercount for various reasons.

But urban area/msa is the best way to look. If someone moves from the Fan to lakeside I don't think they've really left Richmond

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