dreww4546 t1_j9buhdu wrote
I would be careful how I describe this. It sounds like 1) he was never inside your abode and 2) you knocked him out as he was fleeing.
Sometimes criminals actually sue over this and even win. And there is a decent chance he won't be prosecuted...so there goes that part of your legal defense if he does sue.
That being said, play up how you were frightened and how fight or flight rage took over when you retell this to authorities.
And honestly, you did what all of wish we could have done. Just be careful.
Biggymilky22 t1_j9byqfk wrote
Cops said I was well within my rights to defend myself and my property
khuldrim t1_j9cmt7z wrote
Cops say a lot of things. Doesn’t mean they’re right, after all the Supreme Court has said they don’t actually have to know the law.
systematical t1_j9e07xv wrote
According to the OP:
- Trespassing
- Property damage
- Breaking/entering
Would you be surprised if this person has priors (and or was intoxicated) that act as aggravating circumstances? Neither would I. OP was within his right. What jury would side with this piece of shit?
Anyways, the story reaffirms my belief that I should at the very least get some pepper spray if not a gun cuz I'm not very big and my dog isn't a fighter.
khuldrim t1_j9f1np8 wrote
I would, if it could be proven that he acted against the law or recklessly, if i was on his jury. Its the only thing that separates us from wild west vigilantism. In reference to the homeowner, i mean.
systematical t1_j9fbxum wrote
Good thing there is 10 jurors, you're a nut.
khuldrim t1_j9fh1kf wrote
Because I want to apply the law equally and not let a homeowner get away with killing fleeing people in cold blood?
systematical t1_j9i6gdq wrote
Some criminal, who broke into this dudes house and was going to do god knows what. What if the owner was a 100 lbs female instead? What happens then? Does she get assaulted physically? Sexually? The OP did the world a service.
Cold blood? From what I understand, this criminal is still a live and in custody where he belongs. Why defend pieces of shit? If OP went American History X on the guy sure, but he gave him one hook and a push down. Boo-hoo, go live in CHAZ you nut.
khuldrim t1_j9i756p wrote
Once they’re running from you they are no longer a threat. And the push down could’ve caused head trauma, and the suspect was already retreating so it wasn’t necessary.
I’m not a nut, I just don’t defend rampant thuggery in the guise of “home defense”. Seen too many “they were running away when shot in the back” stories where the shooter gets away with it because of right wing style home defense laws, aka you can kill anyone for any reason even at the moment they’re not actually a threat to you. That’s called murder. Or assault.
systematical t1_j9i7m3i wrote
No one was shot in the back here, apples to oranges, a punch and a push is amazing restraint IMO. We disagree, pointless to continue this. Good luck in life.
P.s. You downvote everything you disagree with. Funny haha. Enjoy.
ROA_66 t1_j9dg79t wrote
shut up
khuldrim t1_j9djpkt wrote
That’s gonna be a no from me dog.
Schmergenheimer t1_j9d0b8p wrote
Cops also told me it was my fault my shed was broken into because, "what idiot would have a shed in this neighbourhood? They're working on gentrifying it, but they haven't gotten there yet."
Tiburon_83 t1_j9ctzg8 wrote
OP said the guy kicked his door in. He’s well within his rights.
dreww4546 t1_j9cvdvb wrote
If the burglar has a concussion or other serious injury, he could sue since the injury occurred outside when he was running away.
I don't like this...but I've seen it happen.
LouieKablooie t1_j9d7j8b wrote
That is ridiculous.
khuldrim t1_j9f1sb2 wrote
Nah it makes sense. Once the assailant is running you are no longer in danger.
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