Anyone else have a weirdly aggressive run in with the guard dude(s?) outside of the Daughters of the Confederacy building?

Submitted by -LadyofShalott- t3_11cwnbh in rva

My dog stopped to sniff/pee by the grass at the edge of the lawn between the DAC building and the VMFA (all six of our feet were on the sidewalk, not on the lawn) and he came over waving his arms and yelling. Granted, I understand we could have walked over to the other side of the sidewalk, but it would go against the flow of traffic so to speak, and she wasn’t in the grass or anything. We acknowledged him and waved in apology and kept walking, but he followed us, still yelling. Not sure if he was just having a bad day, or was bored, or if the DAC is cracking down on them, but it felt weirdly aggressive for the moment and I’m still dwelling on it (maybe just because I’m an anxious person and don’t like getting intro trouble haha). Is this happening to everyone or am I an asshole dog owner…?

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Utretch t1_ja5gqdb wrote

they've featured on the subreddit in the past. hired security is generally made up of people too stupid or brutish to even be cops so it's not surprising.

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DancyElephant12 t1_ja5r6dq wrote

Yeah, I think some people are compounding their hate for DOC and disdain for overly aggressive Rent-A-Cops, but these guys strike me as the type to be assholes regardless of what they’re “guarding”. They just happened to be the ones hired and assigned for this particular building.

I doubt the crew of almost exclusively African American guards really give a fuck about the DOC itself.

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Utretch t1_ja5sa3d wrote

Yup. It's a shit job to take but on a certain level I get it. Still wrong and fuck them but I get it.

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spiirel t1_ja7iqra wrote

They’re almost certainly volunteers from the Sons of Confederate veterans. I don’t think Rent-a-Cops are usually armed.

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fractalflatulence t1_ja7og0l wrote

Yup… blacks sons of confederate vets… You nailed it.

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spiirel t1_ja7p88l wrote

I just know a few years ago they were asking for volunteers out of the Sons group. Maybe they’ve run out of volunteers.

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Notexactlyanoob t1_ja89zfd wrote

You realize what some of the slave owning confederates did with their slaves, right?

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Nothing2SeeHere4U t1_ja5kuj2 wrote

Nah they've yelled at me for having my dog anywhere near their grass. Jokes on them I tossed his poop bag at the door on my way home.

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codva t1_ja5n9jv wrote

It would be a real shame if tossing poop bags at the UDC door became a thing in RVA.

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stoned_brad t1_ja6bfjp wrote

Couldn’t happen to a better group of people…

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WolfmanJack506 t1_ja66srh wrote

What would that accomplish? Most likely somebody who has nothing to do with what you’re angry about having to clean up that mess. Find constructive ways to vent your anger where the people who actually deserve it are the ones affected. Also don’t litter or be a petty criminal if you want to accomplish anything, all it does is sow further division and give them ammo.

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Shamewizard1995 t1_ja6fipm wrote

I think it’s a bit ironic that you say “don’t litter or be a petty criminal if you want to accomplish anything” when

A. Talking about confederate terrorist sympathizers.

B. We could ONLY make progress in similar areas like removing racist statues by ripping them down ourselves whilst in violent clashes with police.

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WolfmanJack506 t1_ja7pnib wrote

If you think the confederate terrorist sympathizers are going to be the ones stooping over to pick up your poo then you’re a fool, more than likely it’d be some poor black custodian or groundskeeper. That’s why I’m saying to think about who’s actually affected by your actions. Daryl Davis has converted tons of kkk members by talking to them: an actual, measurable change for the better. Y’all threw a fit and acted like children and got some statues taken down: a hollow victory. But please, start throwing feces around and get back to me to let me whose mind you’ve changed and what you accomplished to make things better other than feeling good about yourself for a moment and giving you something to brag about on social media.

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hissing_mosquito t1_ja5i2gc wrote

Fuck all of those racists asshats. All the decrepit women would come into where I waited tables years ago and be openly racist. They even told us they didn’t want any Black servers waiting on them. They are all thankfully dead by now.

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loptopandbingo t1_ja5qekk wrote

>They even told us they didn’t want any Black servers waiting on them.

Odd, their ancestors seemed to have been willing to die over specifically requiring that.

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_R_A_ t1_ja5uset wrote

Yeah, but then if they tipped them, it would break the family tradition.

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augie_wartooth t1_ja5jh64 wrote

Damn, it sucks that your manager made you put up with that! People are terrible.

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hissing_mosquito t1_ja8ilzt wrote

This was about 15 years ago. They came in every so often as a large group of about 20. The first time they came in, was when they said they didn’t want any black people waiting on them. They only said it to the host and none of us told management because 15 years ago, the “customer is always right” attitude was really catered to so we figured management wouldn’t care. It wasn’t until after they left that management found out about what they said and they had our backs and said the next time they came in, they couldn’t make that request and we could ask them to leave. The next time they came in, they didn’t say anything about not wanting a black server but we always made sure to have the black, gay server wait on them just to make them as uncomfortable as possible.

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Xanryuu t1_ja5l7w4 wrote

I mean that's completely on brand considering the history of the organization and the folks that started it (and why).

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Gwala_BKK t1_ja82tmz wrote

Anyone that believes this is a fool 😂

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hissing_mosquito t1_ja83ogv wrote

Found the racist!

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Gwala_BKK t1_ja84bqz wrote

Lool! Such a stupid mentality you have. I’m in no way racist but I know that these ladies aren’t doing this stuff. Just because they’re a part of a group that you don’t like (not do I) doesn’t mean they’re going around publicly acting racist. That would be insane and they wouldn’t last 5 minutes in todays world. You’re writing fiction for internet points.

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Tryharder3212 t1_ja8a3qz wrote

How do you "know"?

I don't think you really know, and you're defending racists with no proof. While that may not technically make you be a racist... It's not a good look for saying you're not.

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Gwala_BKK t1_ja8enqq wrote

I don’t know but I can be pretty confident. That DoTC place is filled with people that want to continue their little club and they know that the public is against them. They’re actively trying to just go under the radar and stay out of trouble. Why would a group trying to stay out of trouble go around stirring up trouble? It makes much more sense that a redditor in a sub full of fervent left wingers, takes the opportunity to rile up anger towards them by making up a story that everyone will believe. This is internet 101 and is happens all the time on here.

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hissing_mosquito t1_ja8mzew wrote

You’re wrong. I gave a more detailed account in another comment and like I’ve said before, this was 15 years ago. 15 years ago people didn’t get canceled for saying racist stuff like that.

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Gwala_BKK t1_ja8sd9s wrote

Fair enough. I’ll retract my statements. I didn’t know it was 15 years ago

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Tryharder3212 t1_ja8j4s4 wrote

Many different people here are sharing their negative experiences with the daughters of the confederacy. But you're "pretty confident".

Okay buddy. Internet 101 for sure.

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Gwala_BKK t1_ja8t2ts wrote

In my experience echo chambers tend to all build their stories and anger on top of each other as some sort of fun and cathartic release…

I’m taking a step back and reconsidering by stance though. I think I might have been wrong

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babblingbabby t1_ja8s2ve wrote

You’re an idiot if you think people don’t say this kind of shit because they absolutely do. You gain nothing by defending them.

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Gwala_BKK t1_ja8skgd wrote

I guess I’m a bit insulated because I’ve never seen it outside of lakeside. I’m reconsidering my stance

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hissing_mosquito t1_ja8ho7d wrote

This was 15 years ago, way before people got canceled for being racist.

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Dr_Bonejangles t1_ja60ely wrote

I don't believe that for one minute.

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sirensinger17 t1_ja6ap3z wrote

Am nurse. Just last week we had a patient who demanded they only be cared for by white nurses

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stoned_brad t1_ja6c1ar wrote

“Well damn. All the white nurses are tied up at the moment, so if you can tell your heart attack to hit the pause button for the next hour or five, we’ll get a white nurse right to you!”

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Gwala_BKK t1_ja82xtm wrote

Redditors and writing fictional stories about their enemies 🤝

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irishtomboy84 t1_ja5fm3m wrote

I thought that place burnt down in 2020. Shame it survived.

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panopticon31 t1_ja5uqtt wrote

Unfortunately hard to burn down stone and masonry

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10000Didgeridoos t1_ja6o2wv wrote

It's like the playground game. You run through the grass and when they chase you, you have to make it back to the sidewalk before they catch you and yell BASE

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billcosby23 t1_ja5t56w wrote

I encourage my dog to pee and shit in their grass. Fuck em. But I will tell you what kind of mind fucks me is that almost every security guard I’ve seen there is black and I’m like ummm do you know what you’re guarding…

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ZephyrInfernum t1_ja5ju62 wrote

Typical security guard behavior. Ignore them if you're on the sidewalk and not their property. Get aggressive back, even. Fuck those racists.

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possom90 t1_ja5l66f wrote

I lived a block away, and there was some kind of irony in having security guards who are black, guarding the sisterhood of the confederacy…

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-LadyofShalott- OP t1_ja5krd4 wrote

That’s what my fiancé said, but I got too in my head about it. Glad these comments are setting me straight haha thank you!

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princessofbeasts t1_ja5wk6s wrote

I’m frequently walking to and from the VMFA and I’ve seen many times where the security guards yell at and run towards oblivious people. It’s pretty unnecessary but I’ve started to just laugh at how ridiculous it is!

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possom90 t1_ja64wga wrote

They must have treasure from that war they won…. Wait nvm

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10000Didgeridoos t1_ja6ny0b wrote

This is making me want to take a nice sprint through their grass next time I walk by.

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-lamppost- t1_ja6n3t6 wrote

Why don’t they just put up a fence?

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JamesBhand-007 t1_ja5jh8j wrote

My brain read, “My daughter stopped to…”🤦🏽‍♀️

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GrumpyNewYorker t1_ja5wfaf wrote

Your dog has fantastic instincts. In a completely unrelated note, did you know that you can walk your dog at Hollywood Cemetery? The scenery is gorgeous and it’s the final resting place of wonderful people like Jeff Davis.

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WontArnett t1_ja5h70k wrote

Anybody that complains about where a dog goes the bathroom is an asshole.

Also, aren’t those dudes white supremacists? Fuck ‘em.

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possom90 t1_ja5w4vb wrote

Woah you can’t just disrespect the cosplaytriots like that

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OverseerDarthOak t1_ja5x858 wrote

Don't worry OP I piss on everything I see by the DOC

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kittybigs t1_ja6fvol wrote

One of my coworkers was chased across the lawn by them and, more recently, a lady-in her 70s-that I sometimes work with was yelled at.

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0136o t1_ja7yg2y wrote

Feel free to yell back and tell them to fuck off. They have zero control over you or your dog. Even if your dog steps on their grass they can’t do anything, so don’t worry about it or give your power away to them.

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JosefDerArbeiter t1_ja66bpw wrote

I think they would be better served by building a metal fence around their property than their current yard nazi antics

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JDovo t1_ja8wxq6 wrote

Hopefully a fence that can not only keep dogs out but keep them in.

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BugggJuice t1_ja6t30f wrote

pretty sure i witnessed this the other day. was out on lunch break near there. he was definitely over the top

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freetimerva t1_ja7kcxd wrote

It's a good place to throw your trash after a takeout meal.

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Chrahhh t1_ja7pvtd wrote

Happened to me a few weeks ago. My dog stepped on their shitty confederate grass for a sniff and the dude yelled at us to move, waving his arms and such. We basically just ignored him.

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jeb_hoge t1_ja7z9qp wrote

One of the local journos was walking by and asked a guard what happened to the cannons, and after the guard answered him, he then yelled (paraphrased) "Now get off my lawn."

There's something weird going on there. It might be just one guy with some mania on a power trip.

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Dorigan23 t1_ja822uu wrote

They know they deserve to be covered in dog shit and they're terrified of that day

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Better-Limit-4036 t1_ja90x73 wrote

If you walk up their driveway, the guy will say, “THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.” I think it’s just the guy’s individual personality, like the museum has its own Barney Fife

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allmimsyburogrove t1_jaa29b7 wrote

yep someone out there every day since the protestors tried to light it on fire in 2020 (UDC largely responsible for all of the monuments spread across the South)

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MeatShield420 t1_jaa8cn9 wrote

Are they hired goons or volunteers?

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ItsAreBetterThanNips t1_jaaax28 wrote

I had a friend come to meet me at the VMFA once and he walked across their walkway to get there. He was 3 steps away from being off the property when the security guy chased him down and made him walk all the way back to the other side of the building to get on the sidewalk instead. We all laughed about how the guy literally made him spend twice the time on the property when he was mere feet away from being off of it.

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